Re: Notice of moderator intervention

Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> Thu, 7 May 2026 11:38:00 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.general
Message-ID <CAH8yC8kFswnpv6GBJ3-fpU7wCQxozqkWwUnqopCVgyLkAcftcQ@mail.gmail.com>
>> Is it safe to say the Moderators stepped in without being asked?
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> It's not safe to say that. We received a complaint from a longstanding list participant, and it wasn't Daniel Bernstein.

Please accept my apologies.

Jeff

On Thu, May 7, 2026 at 11:32 AM Chris Box <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Thu, 7 May 2026 at 16:19, Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Is it safe to say the Moderators stepped in without being asked?
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>
> It's not safe to say that. We received a complaint from a longstanding list participant, and it wasn't Daniel Bernstein.
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>> Perhaps the moderators should stay in their lane until a real dispute
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>> arises or asked to intervene.
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> To clarify, here's the standard we are seeking to apply.
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> RFC 7154: IETF Guidelines for Conduct
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>    1. IETF participants extend respect and courtesy to their colleagues
>       at all times.
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>    2. IETF participants have impersonal discussions.
>       We dispute ideas by using reasoned argument rather than through
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>       intimidation or personal attack.
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> https://github.com/ietf/Moderators/blob/main/uncivil-commentary.md
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> Attacks can come in several forms. They include personally attacking people for their opinions, beliefs, or ideas rather than criticizing the opinions, beliefs, and ideas themselves. They include name-calling, insulting, demeaning, and belittling people.
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> We welcome community input on whether this standard is the correct one, and if we're applying it in the right way.
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> Chris