Re: legal consultation (was List moderator action)

Joel Halpern <[email protected]> Fri, 8 May 2026 12:05:12 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
That would be a much larger change than what has been discussed in this 
thread.  I would hope we don't go there.

Yours,

Joel

On 5/8/2026 11:52 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> On 5/8/26 17:13, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
>> For some reason, I suspect because many of us are engineers, the
>> IETF often seems to avoid the simplest solution to a given problem.
>>
>> We publish lots of RFCs, a very tiny fraction of them use the no
>> derivatives clause.  The pain & hassle of allowing for "no
>> derivatives" vastly outweighs any benefits of allowing it.
>>
>> At John pointed out, there are loads of alternative ways to publish
>> stuff on the Internet.  Let's just get rid of this (ideally from all
>> streams, but at least the IETF stream) and move on with a very
>> slightly simpler IETF/RFC process than we have today.
>>
>
> I think your suggestion is reasonable for the future.
>
> Could we set the standard that people making contributions are 
> automatically placed into the public domain?
>
> It would resolve the data usage equity discussion relating to AI and 
> other consumers of the data.
>
> Kind regards,
> Jacob
>
> P.S.
> This email is hereby placed into the public domain.
>