Re: Comments on draft-thain-ipv8-01

On 20-May-26 04:26, Tom Beecher wrote:
>  From the article :
> 
>     He thinks he can prove the nay-sayers wrong by building an IPv8 testbed and has commenced a crowdfunding campaign that aims to raise $100,000 to cover the cost of developing open-source software, research and testing infrastructure, plus demos and documentation.
> 
> 
> I think his angle is becoming more clear.

So is mine:
https://packetpushers.net/podcasts/ipv6-buzz/ipb200-yes-ipv6-is-complicated-ipv8-wont-help/

Regards/Ngā mihi
    Brian Carpenter

> 
> On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 8:58 AM Jeffrey Walton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 10:31 AM Stephane Bortzmeyer
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>      >
>      > On Thu, Apr 16, 2026 at 01:41:37PM +0000,
>      >  Andrew <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote
>      >  a message of 39 lines which said:
>      >
>      > > This was sent to me by … maybe a half dozen people.
>      > >
>      > > Is this some sort April Fools joke?
>      >
>      > In France at least, at least two information sites (both very
>      > low-cost, with poor articles and therefore widely read and quite often
>      > quoted by Google) relayed this information as if it were an "official"
>      > IETF project:
>      >
>      > https://www.frandroid.com/culture-tech/3067103_cest-quoi-lipv8-la-solution-pour-enfin-regler-le-probleme-des-adresses-internet <https://www.frandroid.com/culture-tech/3067103_cest-quoi-lipv8-la-solution-pour-enfin-regler-le-probleme-des-adresses-internet>
>      > https://www.it-connect.fr/cest-quoi-ipv8-un-nouveau-draft-ietf-veut-ressusciter-ipv4/ <https://www.it-connect.fr/cest-quoi-ipv8-un-nouveau-draft-ietf-veut-ressusciter-ipv4/>
> 
>     I noticed The Register published an articled recently.  From "Veteran
>     network architect proposes IPv8 – to improve IPv4, not leapfrog v6"
>     (12 May 2026), <https://www.theregister.com/networks/2026/05/12/veteran-network-architect-proposes-ipv8-to-improve-ipv4-not-leapfrog-v6/5238474 <https://www.theregister.com/networks/2026/05/12/veteran-network-architect-proposes-ipv8-to-improve-ipv4-not-leapfrog-v6/5238474>>:
> 
>          A veteran network architect named James Thain has drafted a proposal
>          for “Internet Protocol Version 8” (IPv8) and hopes to crowdfund
>          work to create a testbed that will demonstrate his ideas.
>          ...
> 
>          In conversation with The Register, Thain said he created the IPv8 draft
>          because existing protocols were developed for the networking problems
>          of the day, and things have now well and truly moved on. He also thinks
>          that few organizations other than hyperscalers and network operators
>          have a good reason to adopt IPv6, because it doesn’t offer major
>          improvements over IPv4 and migrations to the newer protocol seldom
>          produce return on investment.
>          ...
> 
>     Jeff
>