[TLS] Re: [Uta] Recall Petition pursuant to § 7.1 .1 of RFC 8713: SEC AD Deb Cooley

Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> Mon, 20 Jul 2026 10:33:17 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.tls,gmane.ietf.uta,gmane.ietf.general
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This is not how recalls work. A recall petition needs to be signed by 20
nomcom-eligible
IETF community members and is sent to the ISOC President [0]:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8713#name-member-trustee-and-direc=
tor

What you have here is just an email to the TLS mailing list, which has no
effect.

-Ekr


[0] The ombudsteam can also initiate a recall in cases of harassment but
you don't appear to be claiming that this is that.



On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Timo Gerke <[email protected]> wro=
te:

> Dear Community,
>
> I hereby initiate a Recall Petition pursuant to =C2=A7 7.1.1 of
> RFC 8713 against SEC AD Deb Cooley, regarding a significant
> breach in confidentiality of communication.
>
> While her technical competence within the Security Area is
> recognized without a doubt, the NomCom MAY consider to verify the
> trustworthiness of the named SEC AD based on the documented
> procedural infractions.
>
> To safeguard the fundamental integrity of the IETF standards
> process, the technical evidence regarding this unauthorized
> backchannel disclosure is provided below.
>
> TECHNICAL EVIDENCE OF SECURITY LACK
>
> 1. My Private Notice to SEC AD Deb Cooley's officially in
> Datatracker regisered Mailaddress
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 10:15:36 +0200
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
> Content-Language: en-US, de-DE
> From: Timo Gerke <[email protected]>
> To: "Deb Cooley (IETF, AD Security Area)" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Notice: Operational Analysis & Cluster C430 Deadlock
> (TLS/UTA)
>
> 2. SEC AD Deb Cooley's response
> References: <[email protected]>
> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> From: Deb Cooley <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 06:42:16 +0100
> Subject: Re: Notice: Operational Analysis & Cluster C430 Deadlock
> (TLS/UTA)
> To: Timo Gerke <[email protected]>
> Cc: Eric Rescorla <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Timo Gerke
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>This is not how recalls work. A recall petition needs=
 to be signed by 20 nomcom-eligible</div><div>IETF community members and is=
 sent to the ISOC President [0]:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https:=
//datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8713#name-member-trustee-and-director" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8713#name-member-=
trustee-and-director</a></div><div><br></div><div>What you have here is jus=
t an email to the TLS mailing list, which has no effect.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>-Ekr</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[0] The ombudsteam can =
also initiate a recall in cases of harassment but you don&#39;t appear=C2=
=A0to be claiming that this is that.</div><div><br></div><br></div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 20=
, 2026 at 10:26=E2=80=AFAM Timo Gerke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@timogerke.=
de" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Community,<br>
<br>
I hereby initiate a Recall Petition pursuant to =C2=A7 7.1.1 of<br>
RFC 8713 against SEC AD Deb Cooley, regarding a significant<br>
breach in confidentiality of communication.<br>
<br>
While her technical competence within the Security Area is<br>
recognized without a doubt, the NomCom MAY consider to verify the<br>
trustworthiness of the named SEC AD based on the documented<br>
procedural infractions.<br>
<br>
To safeguard the fundamental integrity of the IETF standards<br>
process, the technical evidence regarding this unauthorized<br>
backchannel disclosure is provided below.<br>
<br>
TECHNICAL EVIDENCE OF SECURITY LACK<br>
<br>
1. My Private Notice to SEC AD Deb Cooley&#39;s officially in<br>
Datatracker regisered Mailaddress<br>
Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:3c967485-b5d2-4e93-84f6-632f81bc803d@alic=
e-dsl.net" target=3D"_blank">3c967485-b5d2-4e93-84f6-632f81bc803d@alice-dsl=
.net</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2026 10:15:36 +0200<br>
MIME-Version: 1.0<br>
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird<br>
Content-Language: en-US, de-DE<br>
From: Timo Gerke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"=
_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Deb Cooley (IETF, AD Security Area)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:d=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Notice: Operational Analysis &amp; Cluster C430 Deadlock<br>
(TLS/UTA)<br>
<br>
2. SEC AD Deb Cooley&#39;s response<br>
References: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:3c967485-b5d2-4e93-84f6-632f81bc803d@alic=
e-dsl.net" target=3D"_blank">3c967485-b5d2-4e93-84f6-632f81bc803d@alice-dsl=
.net</a>&gt;<br>
In-Reply-To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:3c967485-b5d2-4e93-84f6-632f81bc803d@ali=
ce-dsl.net" target=3D"_blank">3c967485-b5d2-4e93-84f6-632f81bc803d@alice-ds=
l.net</a>&gt;<br>
From: Deb Cooley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 06:42:16 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: Notice: Operational Analysis &amp; Cluster C430 Deadlock<br>
(TLS/UTA)<br>
To: Timo Gerke &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: Eric Rescorla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ekr=
@rtfm.com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email protected]</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Timo Gerke<br>
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