Re: Dealing with LLMs in IETF discussions draft

George Michaelson <[email protected]> Fri, 31 Jul 2026 11:59:27 +1000
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The discussion is important but something about the shape of the dialogue
as proffered didn't work for me.

I think it should be a discussion. I think perhaps the way to approach it
is a discussion about a ML or WG charter exploring issues.

I feel (as an example) that there is a fundamental lack of honesty
preferring synthetic input as discourse in a standards directed document,
where I do not feel the same problem with a protocol spec or data structure
in some notation which was machine generated, if (for example) i can see
the prompt. I find declared use of translation agents more acceptable than
wall of text with no proffer of source.

My concerns are not entirely the same as the ones you put in this draft.
Hence my sense the intent is good, but I am unsure this is the form.

No hat, but as an observation the LLC Board (of which I am a member) has
asked participants in open board meetings not to bring AI adjuncts with
them into the conversation or use their note taking and transcripts as a
record.

George

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<div dir=3D"auto">The discussion is important but something about the shape=
 of the dialogue as proffered didn&#39;t work for me.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I think it should be a discussion. I think pe=
rhaps the way to approach it is a discussion about a ML or WG charter explo=
ring issues.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I feel (as =
an example) that there is a fundamental lack of honesty preferring syntheti=
c input as discourse in a standards directed document, where I do not feel =
the same problem with a protocol spec or data structure in some notation wh=
ich was machine generated, if (for example) i can see the prompt. I find de=
clared use of translation agents more acceptable than wall of text with no =
proffer of source.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">My co=
ncerns are not entirely the same as the ones you put in this draft. Hence m=
y sense the intent is good, but I am unsure this is the form.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">No hat, but as an observation the LLC=
 Board (of which I am a member) has asked participants in open board meetin=
gs not to bring AI adjuncts with them into the conversation or use their no=
te taking and transcripts as a record.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">George</div></div>

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