RE: [Geopriv] Explicit Indication of Location Object Consumer

"Winterbottom, James" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.sip,gmane.ietf.geopriv
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I guess I don't see an explicit indicator being required.
If the proxy needs it for routing, and it can't get access to it, then
the call will fail.
If the end-point can't get access to it, then the result is application
dependent.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tschofenig, Hannes [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:39 AM
> To: Winterbottom, James; Brian Rosen; Hannes Tschofenig; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> Subject: AW: [Geopriv] Explicit Indication of Location Object Consumer
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> > I am inclined to agree with Brian here.
> >
> > I am not sure why a proxy would just pickout a location URI and
> > de-reference it unless the proxy needed to use it in some way
anyway.
> > Perhaps the example is not such a good one. Hannes do you
> > have something
> > more concrete in mind?
> 
> The location conveyance draft has emergency and non-emergency
> applications in mind.
> With emergency calls you want the proxy and the PSAP (as the other end
> of the call) to process the location objects.
> For non-emergency applications you either might want the proxy (for
> location-based routing or the end host to process the LO; or even
both).
> So, do you think there is no need to tell which entity should process
> it?
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian Rosen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Monday, 22 May 2006 11:05 AM
> > > To: 'Hannes Tschofenig'; [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [Geopriv] Explicit Indication of Location
> > Object Consumer
> > >
> > > I would say no.  If the location is not needed by proxies, then I
> > would
> > > say
> > > you MUST protect it (S/MIME), or it will not be private.
> > >
> > > If you have to route on it (emergency or otherwise), then
> > you have to
> > send
> > > it with TLS, and the proxies can see it.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 7:40 AM
> > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > Subject: [Geopriv] Explicit Indication of Location Object Consumer
> > >
> > > Hi James
> > > Hi Brian,
> > >
> > > do you plan to put additional info into the SIP message to
indicate
> > who
> > > should consume the Location Object (explicity rather than implicit
> > info)?
> > >
> > > Here is an example: Assume that SIP UA Alice wants to give Bob
> > location
> > > information (via reference). Now, Alice could easily
> > indicate that it
> > > wants Bob to resolve the reference and to process the
> > location object.
> > > Stating this explicitly would prevent proxies to resolve it and to
> > > process the location object.
> > >
> > > Ciao
> > > Hannes
> > >
> > >
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