Re: Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Christer Holmberg <[email protected]> Sun, 6 May 2018 19:05:42 +0000
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--===============3397067006783951465== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_71503CBDB8524D4B8691E16356EA9738ericssoncom_" --_000_71503CBDB8524D4B8691E16356EA9738ericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, The question is whether this document should re-define the HIP variations t= o ICE that RFC 5770 already does. Regards, Christer Sent from my iPhone On 6 May 2018, at 22.01, Eric Rescorla <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> = wrote: On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@erics= son.com<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, > I am very familiar with ICE and yet I found this document extremely hard = to follow. The problem is that it cherry-picks pieces > of ICE and I'm just not sure that it's a complete specification when put = all together. I have noted a number of places where I > actually am not sure how to implement something, and fixing those will re= solve this DISCUSS, but IMO you really should totally > rewrite this document either (a) as a variant of ICE or (b) as an entirel= y new document not with a pile of new text and then > references out to ICE sections. I haven't been involved in the work on this draft, so I may be wrong, but I= did review the document and my understanding is that RFC 5770 is the "vari= ant of ICE", and this document is a modification/extension to RFC 5770. This document is a variant of ICE in the sense that it is ICE-like and expl= icitly depends on quite a bit of ICE. -Ekr Regards, Christer --_000_71503CBDB8524D4B8691E16356EA9738ericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > </head> <body dir=3D"auto"> Hi, <div><br> </div> <div>The question is whether this document should re-define the HIP variati= ons to ICE that RFC 5770 already does.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Regards,</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Christer<br> <br> <div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div> <div><br> On 6 May 2018, at 22.01, Eric Rescorla <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Christer Holmbe= rg <span dir=3D"ltr"> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">chr= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi,<br> <span class=3D""><br> > I am very familiar with ICE and yet I found this document extremely ha= rd to follow. The problem is that it cherry-picks pieces <br> > of ICE and I'm just not sure that it's a complete specification when p= ut all together. I have noted a number of places where I <br> > actually am not sure how to implement something, and fixing those will= resolve this DISCUSS, but IMO you really should totally <br> > rewrite this document either (a) as a variant of ICE or (b) as an enti= rely new document not with a pile of new text and then <br> > references out to ICE sections.<br> <br> </span>I haven't been involved in the work on this draft, so I may be wrong= , but I did review the document and my understanding is that RFC 5770 is th= e "variant of ICE", and this document is a modification/extension= to RFC 5770.<br> </blockquote> <div><br> </div> <div>This document is a variant of ICE in the sense that it is ICE-like and= explicitly depends on quite a bit of ICE.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>-Ekr</div> <div><br> </div> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> Regards,<br> <br> Christer<br> <br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html> --_000_71503CBDB8524D4B8691E16356EA9738ericssoncom_-- --===============3397067006783951465== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Hipsec mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec --===============3397067006783951465==--