RE: FW: EPON MIB comments (eponDeviceObjectPowerDown)

"Glen Kramer" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.hubmib
Organization Teknovus
Message-ID <[email protected]>
[GK] eponDeviceObjectPowerDown - "Setting this variable to True(1) will
cause Device to be entered into Power down mode where no registration is
allowed and only receiving data from the link.". This object does not make
sense. Setting it to True will cause the device lose the link (because no
transmission is allowed leading to MPCP timeout) and never register again
(because registration is not allowed).

[LK] I guess the question is what is the meaning of power down. I thought of
a condition where the device is in minimal power mode where it is not
transmitting and it is in listening mode so it can be enabled by activation
according to MAC address. Keeping it registered can be done easily by
reducing its SLA to minimal BW but I don't think it is a power down mode.
Keeping it in listening mode will really make it possible for the system to
reduce power (notice I do not define what is exactly this mode as it can be
implemented as the vendor wishes) yet have the minimal capability to wake
up.

[GK] This is very suspiciously seems like fitting of MIB spec to a specific
proprietary implementation. Even if device is not transmitting any user
data, it should periodically transmit MPCP and OAM messages. 
You are trying to define some kind of standby mode without clear explanation
what this mode is or how it can be implemented. I argue that because MPCP
relies on periodic messages, this mode is not possible without breaking IEEE
802.3ah standard.
"Keeping it registered can be done easily by reducing its SLA to minimal
BW..." This is a particular implementation. Device registration has nothing
to do with the provisioned SLA. There is a very formal state machine that
explains steps of EPON device registration.
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