RE: Review of EFM-04 I-D

"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <[email protected]> Thu, 11 May 2006 16:53:02 +0200
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OK, then, for me it seems that the revision 4 of the document has
the proper SYNTYAX, namely
         SYNTAX      Unsigned32 (64..1518)

Bert
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> Cc: David T. Perkins; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Review of EFM-04 I-D
> 
> 
> Hi Bert,
> 
> The following is just my personal view of what IEEE Std 802.3 
> states, but 
> based on the text in Table 57-9 of IEEE Std 802.3-2005 that 
> states that 
> 'The minimum value is minFrameSize / 8.' and subclause 4.4.2 defining 
> minFrameSize as 512 bits the minimum value for Maximum OAMPDU 
> Size is 64.
> 
> I therefore believe 0-63 inclusive are not valid, I don't see 
> any special 
> case for 0.
> 
> Regards,
>   David
> 
> 
> "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <[email protected]> wrote on 
> 11/05/2006 13:58:24:
> 
> > Ok, I did not link through to clause 4.4.1.
> > So then it seems that 0-63 are not valid values. Or is zero length
> > a special case?
> 
> > Bert
> 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 13:46
> > > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> > > Cc: David T. Perkins; [email protected]; [email protected];
> > > [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [Hubmib] Review of EFM-04 I-D
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bert,
> > >
> > > I don't know if the following is what you were looking for in
> > > IEEE Std
> > > 802.3ah-2004 (please note that IEEE 802.3ah-2004 has been
> > > superseded by
> > > IEEE 802.3-2005 which I will quote from):
> > >
> > > Subclause 30.3.6.1.8 'aOAMLocalPDUConfiguration' of IEEE Std
> > > 802.3-2005
> > > reads:
> > >
> > > ATTRIBUTE
> > > APPROPRIATE SYNTAX:
> > > INTEGER
> > > BEHAVIOUR DEFINED AS:
> > > An eleven bit value corresponding to the Maximum OAMPDU Size
> > > value within
> > > the OAMPDU Configuration field (see Table 57–9) in the 
> most recently
> > > transmitted OAMPDU.;
> > >
> > >
> > > In Table 57-9 of IEEE Std 802.3-2005 'Maximum OAMPDU Size' is
> > > described
> > > as:
> > >
> > > 11-bit field which represents the largest OAMPDU, in octets,
> > > supported by
> > > the DTE. This value is compared to the remote’s Maximum PDU
> > > Size and the
> > > smaller of the two is used. Prior to exchanging and 
> agreeing upon a
> > > Maximum OAMPDU Size, a DTE sends minFrameSize OAMPDUs. The
> > > minimum value
> > > is minFrameSize / 8. The maximum value is equal to
> > > maxUntaggedFrameSize,
> > > which is defined in 4.4.2. The OAMPDUs transmitted by a DTE
> > > are limited by
> > > both the local DTE’s Maximum OAMPDU size and the remote 
> DTE's Maximum
> > > OAMPDU size as indicated in received Information OAMPDUs. A
> > > DTE is not
> > > required to change the value transmitted in this field after
> > > negotiation
> > > to an agreed size as each end will dynamically.
> > >
> > > Subclause 4.4.2 of IEEE Std 802.3-2005 'Allowable
> > > implementations' defines
> > > minFrameSize as 512 bits.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >   David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <[email protected]> wrote on
> > > 11/05/2006 12:26:16:
> > >
> > > > W.r.t.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) The syntax of object dot3OamMaxOamPduSize is specified
> > > > >     as "SYNTAX (0..1518)", but the text says values
> > > > >     1..63 are not allowed. So, why not
> > > > >     "SYNTAX (0 | 64..1518)
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > Mmmm... which document are you looking at?
> > > > The   that I have says (on page 15)
> > > > dot3OamMaxOamPduSize OBJECT-TYPE
> > > > SYNTAX      Unsigned32 (64..1518)
> > > > UNITS       "octets"
> > > > MAX-ACCESS  read-only
> > > > STATUS      current
> > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > "The largest OAMPDU that the OAM entity supports.  OAM
> > > > entities exchange maximum OAMPDU sizes and negotiate to use
> > > > the smaller of the two maximum OAMPDU sizes between the peers.
> > > > This value is determined by the local implementation.
> > > > "
> > > > REFERENCE   "[802.3ah], 30.3.6.1.8"
> > > > ::= { dot3OamEntry 4 }
> > > >
> > > > So it does not have (0..1518) and the DESCRIPTION clause
> > > also does not
> > > tell
> > > > me what a value of zero would mean ??
> > > > I tried to find it in the 802.3ah spec, but have not 
> found it (yet).
> > >
> > > > Bert
> > >
> > > >
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