Re: General Request for Assignment (imap-keywords) (was: [JMAP] SMIME Attachments)

Neil Jhaveri <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:13:39 -0700
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> On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Bron Gondwana <[email protected]> =
wrote:
>=20
> I still remain unconvinced that the usecase is common enough that any =
client would use it, particularly since the first client still needs to =
download the message so it can set the flag.

I agree, I just don=E2=80=99t see the value of this being significant =
enough, since it only helps the second+ client that comes along.

If you are dealing with messages encrypted as a single blob, and want to =
have a good user experience, you probably have to venture into =
thick-client territory and proactively download/decrypt the message =
locally anyways. Otherwise, how can you provide full-text body search, =
or a UI with a message preview, as many clients seem to be doing =
nowadays?

Doesn=E2=80=99t that also diminish the need for this keyword?

Have I missed some important use-case?=

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Bron Gondwana &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">I still remain unconvinced that =
the usecase is common enough that any client would use it, particularly =
since the first client still needs to download the message so it can set =
the flag.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">I =
agree, I just don=E2=80=99t see the value of this being significant =
enough, since it only helps the second+ client that comes =
along.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If you =
are dealing with messages encrypted as a single blob, and want to have a =
good user experience, you probably have to venture into thick-client =
territory and proactively download/decrypt the message locally anyways. =
Otherwise, how can you provide full-text body search, or a UI with a =
message preview, as many clients seem to be doing nowadays?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Doesn=E2=80=99t that =
also diminish the need for this keyword?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Have I missed some important =
use-case?</div></body></html>=

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