RE: other candidates for IMPP ?

Comments ~

* I believe that the effort on APEX has stalled, with some supporters moving to XMPP. Both are similar (being XML based), with XMPP actually having implementations (in the form of Jabber).

* SIMPLE (or at least SIP) also has the benefit of having a number of actual implementations (e.g. the Microsoft RTC server is SIP based), although normally as an add on to a full SIP server. 

I don't know about PRIM, but think it also stalled some time ago.

I haven't really looked much into Wireless Village, but have got the specs to review. It was good to see that a number of vendors appear to have implementations.

- Stephen Gryphon



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicolas Deves [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 February 2003 9:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: other candidates for IMPP ?
> 
> 
> I have read somewhere that the IMPP wg suggested 3 candidates 
> for the IMPP
> protocol : SIMPLE, PRIM and APEX, that's what I mean by "candidate for
> IMPP".
> About the Wireless Village, It is an industrial consortium 
> (including Nokia,
> Ericsson, Motorolla, ...) that wants to release an open 
> solution for IM & P
> but more specific to wireless networks than those suggested 
> by the IETF.
> Last Week at the 3GSM congress in Cannes, France, It seemed 
> that everybody
> was talking about Wireless Village IMPS as the solution that 
> mobile phone
> manufacturers will adopt, and nobody was talking about using 
> XMPP/Jabber for
> example.
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Day" <[email protected]>
> To: "Nicolas Deves" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:01 AM
> Subject: RE: other candidates for IMPP ?
> 
> 
> XMPP is developing a protocol within the requirements set 
> forth by IMPP,
> much like the SIMPLE, PRIM, and APEX working groups.  I'm not 
> sure what you
> mean by a "candidate for IMPP".  All four groups are 
> chartered to develop
> IMPP-compliant protocols, and at least a couple of them have 
> essentially
> finished the task.
> 
> I don't have any special knowledge of Wireless Village but it 
> seems to be a
> fairly typical industrial consortium effort.  There have been 
> many protocols
> proposed in this space by a wide variety of companies or groups of
> companies, and I think it's quite hard for anyone to predict 
> which (if any)
> will succeed or fail.
> 
> --Mark
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> > Nicolas Deves
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:33 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: other candidates for IMPP ?
> >
> >
> > Hello
> >
> >     I am a student in a french engineering school (ESISAR -
> > INPG), and I am
> > working on a project for a mobile phone manufacturer. The 
> project is about
> > developping an IMPS client for their phone. In the wireless
> > domain, it seems
> > that the protocol that will be the most widely used is Wireless
> > Village IMPS
> > (http://www.openmobilealliance.org/wirelessvillage/). What 
> do you think
> > about it ?
> > And what about the XMPP working group ? Is it a new 
> candidate for IMPP ?
> >
> > Thanks and regards.
> >
> >
> > Nicolas Deves
> > PI09
> > ESISAR
> > 50, Rue Barthelemy de Laffemas
> > 26000 VALENCE
> > FRANCE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   [reminder: [email protected] for non-technical 
> discussions, please]
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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