"De facto charter" proposed text
"Mark Day" <[email protected]> Thu, 22 May 2003 18:54:32 -0400
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We now have our various documents ready to go to the IESG. However, our AD (Ted Hardie) and others have noted that the current IMPP charter is not a very useful guide to understanding or evaluating the documents, since it has not been updated in the course of IMPP's long strange trip. Derek and I produced some text a few weeks ago that we call the "de facto charter" since it summarizes what we have been using as a basis for chairing the group. Little in it is likely to be surprising for people who've been following the group. But the text is the first time that we've tried to really write these various principles and goals down. We're currently assuming that we will send some version of a "de facto charter" to the IESG as a supplement or replacement for our existing charter. We'd like to hear from WG members if this text seems mismatched to what you think the group has been trying to accomplish. Note that this is a slightly different question from whether the group *should* be trying to do something different. That can be an interesting discussion, but one that will distract us from getting the documents and sensible evaluation criteria to the IESG. We'd like to keep comments focused on whether we've accurately captured what the WG rough consensus direction has been. Text follows and has been submitted as draft-day-atkins-impp-defacto-00.txt Yr humble co-chairs, Mark and Derek ------------------------ This is a "de facto IMPP charter" to accompany the IMPP submissions to the IESG. Such an arrangement is not ordinarily part of the IETF process, but appears to be the most effective means of providing necessary context to the IESG as it considers the IMPP documents. The first part of this document describes the circumstances that have led to this unusual de facto charter. The second part describes the IMPP charter as it has been understood by the current chairs. 1. History IMPP was originally chartered to "eventually define protocols and data formats necessary to build an internet-scale end-user presence awareness, notification and instant messaging system." The WG successfully delivered RFCs 2778 and 2779, then solicited proposals for protocol designs meeting the requirements described there. The design contest had a number of entries and an unanticipated effect: the proposals split the WG into three groups. Each supported a different approach to developing IMPP. RFCs 2778 and 2779 did not in themselves provide a basis for declaring one of these proposals superior. The ADs appointed a design team dubbed the "Group of Nine" or simply "The Nine" consisting of 3 persons from each of the three camps, and tasked them with determining what the core mechanisms were that they could all agree on. The goal was to define some common information that would allow some kind of interoperability of the different protocols, even if a single protocol was not possible. The Nine outlined a structure of "Common Presence and Instant Messaging" (CPIM) operations and two common formats, one for instant messages and one for presence information. Subsequently, the IESG chartered three new WGs as "children of IMPP": APEX, PRIM, and SIMPLE. Included in each child group's charter was a requirement that its protocol must be CPIM-compliant. This requirement was also placed on XMPP when it became a chartered working group. A crucial omission at this stage was that IMPP's charter was not updated to reflect the changed circumstances. 2. Current de facto charter IMPP has developed requirements for instant messaging and presence in RFCs 2778 and 2779. Its current charter is to devise: (1) a common extensible instant message format (the MIME type message/cpim, sometimes referred to as MSGFMT); (2) a common extensible presence information format (the MIME type application/pidf+xml, sometimes referred to as PIDF); (3) an abstract operational profile for protocols that implement instant messaging using MSGFMT (which profile is somewhat confusingly also called CPIM); and (4) an abstract operational profile for protocols that implement presence using PIDF (which profile is called CPP). IMPP does not produce protocols that carry these formats, but it does place requirements on the protocols produced by other groups. Other protocols could also be designed from scratch or adapted from existing protocols to become IMPP-compliant. An IMPP-compliant instant messaging system would have to (at least) carry MSGFMT messages, conform to the CPIM profile, and otherwise meet the common and instant-messaging requirements of RFCs 2778 and 2779. A IMPP-compliant presence system would have to (at least) carry PIDF messages, conform to the CPP profile, and otherwise meet the common and presence requirements of RFCs 2778 and 2779. [reminder: [email protected] for non-technical discussions, please]