RE: [Simple] Status summary

I've been using XP Messenger with my own SIP-based IM client
for some time now. As I'm currently on an airplane (and without
a network), I can't include a packet trace. If you really want
me to ferret one out, let me know and I'll send you one.

/a

-----Original Message-----
From: Avshalom Houri [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 14:03
To: Tom Karlo
Cc: Henning Schulzrinne; [email protected]; [email protected];
[email protected]; Peter Saint-Andre; Tony Hansen
Subject: RE: [Simple] Status summary

What is sip based in the XP Windows messenger is in the VOIP part. The PIM
part is still using the MSN protocol (VER 119) as can be seen if you look at
the packets it sends. 

Avshalom Houri
Presence and Instant Messaging Architect
Lotus Sametime, IBM Software Group
[email protected]

Tom  Karlo <[email protected]> 
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16/04/2002 16:23 
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        To:        Avshalom Houri/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL, Henning Schulzrinne
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        Subject:        RE: [Simple] Status summary 

       

Actually, the latest Windows Messenger has been SIP-based for a while now (6
months?) My company is one of the carriers providing support. You might have
to check the XP messenger, although I do believe 4.6 would be the right one.
If you get the version where when making a phone call, you’re given a list
of services to choose from, then that’s the SIP one. The old one only
allowed you to use the Net2Phone protocol. 
 
Tom Karlo 
Net2Phone 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Avshalom Houri [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:39 AM
To: Henning Schulzrinne
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Peter Saint-Andre;
Tony Hansen
Subject: Re: [Simple] Status summary 
 

I was checking the Windows messenger version 4.6. As far as I know: 
       * This version is based on the MSN protocol and not SIP. 
       * The SIP client is not publically available yet. 

Avshalom Houri
Presence and Instant Messaging Architect
Lotus Sametime, IBM Software Group
[email protected]

  Henning Schulzrinne <[email protected]> 
16/04/2002 00:26 
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       cc:        Tony Hansen <[email protected]>,
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       Subject:        Re: [Simple] Status summary 

      

I'm curious: Windows Messenger, supposedly using SIP and IMPP presence,
has a bunch of status indications, similar to the ones mentioned on the
list (lunch, do not disturb, etc.). How are they encoded?

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
> FWIW, we provide the following statuses (stati?) in Jabber:
> 
> 1. Unavailable (maps to CLOSED)
> 
> 2. Available (maps to OPEN) with sub-statuses:
>    - away
>    - extended away
>    - do not disturb
>    - free/desiring to chat
> 
> 3. Invisible
> 
> Any status can be extended with a natural-language description of the
> status.
> 
> More information at
> http://www.jabber.org/ietf/draft-miller-jabber-00.html#common-presence



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