Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC3083 (4048)

"Woundy, Richard" <[email protected]> Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:44:29 +0000
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Wow. I don't even remember why I submitted that errata, 13 years ago. And I=
 left Cisco ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>) 12 years ago.

In any case, I agree with this submission.

-- Rich

On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:29 AM, "Michael StJohns" <[email protected]<mailto=
:[email protected]>> wrote:

Ok.  That makes sense.  I didn't realize Rich had posted an errata.  The "s=
tart" is extraneous but harmless, but does need the comma if present.  Mike

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55, Mark Ellison <[email protected]<mailto:ellison@iee=
e.org>> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your reply.

My submission is in regard to the docsBpiCmAuthState object.  If you look a=
t the technical errata submitted here: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_sea=
rch.php?rfc=3D3083  then you will see the comma is clearly omitted from the=
 'fixed' text:

It should say:

   docsBpiCmAuthState      OBJECT-TYPE
   SYNTAX                  INTEGER {

                                   start(1)
                                   authWait(2),
                                   authorized(3),
                                   reauthWait(4),
                                   authRejectWait(5)


Maybe what you are saying is that the above fix is not required?  If so, it=
 is misleading...and either way, syntactically incorrect!

Regards,

Mark


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Michael StJohns <[email protected]<mail=
to:[email protected]>> wrote:
What a blast from the past.

This is "not an error" , at least as reported.  Three are two places this e=
rror might have been reported from - the definition of  docsBpiCmAuthState =
and  the definition o fdocsBpiCmTEKState.  The former -  I believe correctl=
y -does not include "start (1)" as one of its states.  The latter has "star=
t (1),"  - e.g. including the comma.  So I'm not sure where he's actually s=
eeing the error.

The  MIB  was verified at submission.  I would be surprised if there are an=
y obvious syntactic errors like this in the body of the MIB.

If I remember correctly, the reason the "start" state was excluded from the=
 docsBpiCmAuthState enums is that its never a visible state - the state mac=
hine doesn't actually exist until docsIfCmStatusValue is at least todEstabl=
ished - (RFC4546) and the state would always be later than "start" so any q=
uery about baseline privacy will not necessarily give you valid information=
 prior to todEstablished.

Mike



At 11:02 AM 7/11/2014, RFC Errata System wrote:
>The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3083,
>"Baseline Privacy Interface Management Information Base for DOCSIS Complia=
nt Cable Modems and Cable Modem Termination Systems".
>
>--------------------------------------
>You may review the report below and at:
>http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3083&eid=3D4048
>
>--------------------------------------
>Type: Technical
>Reported by: Mark Ellison <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>Section: 4
>
>Original Text
>-------------
>start(1)
>
>Corrected Text
>--------------
>start(1),
>
>Notes
>-----
>errata # 334 for RFC3083 omits the necessary comma at the end of the inser=
ted line 'start(1)'
>
>Instructions:
>-------------
>This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
>use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
>rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)
>can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>
>--------------------------------------
>RFC3083 (draft-ietf-ipcdn-mcns-bpi-mib-02)
>--------------------------------------
>Title               : Baseline Privacy Interface Management Information Ba=
se for DOCSIS Compliant Cable Modems and Cable Modem Termination Systems
>Publication Date    : March 2001
>Author(s)           : R. Woundy
>Category            : INFORMATIONAL
>Source              : IP over Cable Data Network
>Area                : Operations and Management
>Stream              : IETF
>Verifying Party     : IESG
>
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<div>Wow. I don't even remember why I submitted that errata, 13 years ago. =
And I left Cisco (<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a=
>) 12 years ago.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>In any case, I agree with this submission.<br>
<br>
-- Rich</div>
<div><br>
On Jul 12, 2014, at 9:29 AM, &quot;Michael StJohns&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Ok. &nbsp;That makes sense. &nbsp;I didn't realize Rich had posted an =
errata. &nbsp;The &quot;start&quot; is extraneous but harmless, but does ne=
ed the comma if present. &nbsp;Mike<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>
On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55, Mark Ellison &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
rg">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
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<div>
<div>Hi Guys,<br>
<br>
</div>
Thanks for your reply.<br>
<br>
My submission is in regard to the docsBpiCmAuthState object.&nbsp; If you l=
ook at the technical errata submitted here:
<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3083">http://w=
ww.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3083</a>&nbsp; then you will see =
the comma is clearly omitted from the 'fixed' text:<br>
<br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
It should say:<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; docsBpiCmAuthState&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; OBJECT-TYPE<b=
r>
&nbsp;&nbsp; SYNTAX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; INTEGER {<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; start(1)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; authWait(2),<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; authorized(3),<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; reauthWait(4),<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; authRejectWait(5)<br=
>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
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Maybe what you are saying is that the above fix is not required?&nbsp; If s=
o, it is misleading...and either way, syntactically incorrect!<br>
<br>
</div>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Michael StJohns=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">mstjohns@comc=
ast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What a blast from the past.<br>
<br>
This is &quot;not an error&quot; , at least as reported. &nbsp;Three are tw=
o places this error might have been reported from - the definition of &nbsp=
;docsBpiCmAuthState and &nbsp;the definition o fdocsBpiCmTEKState. &nbsp;Th=
e former - &nbsp;I believe correctly -does not include &quot;start (1)&quot=
;
 as one of its states. &nbsp;The latter has &quot;start (1),&quot; &nbsp;- =
e.g. including the comma. &nbsp;So I'm not sure where he's actually seeing =
the error.<br>
<br>
The &nbsp;MIB &nbsp;was verified at submission. &nbsp;I would be surprised =
if there are any obvious syntactic errors like this in the body of the MIB.=
<br>
<br>
If I remember correctly, the reason the &quot;start&quot; state was exclude=
d from the docsBpiCmAuthState enums is that its never a visible state - the=
 state machine doesn't actually exist until docsIfCmStatusValue is at least=
 todEstablished - (RFC4546) and the state
 would always be later than &quot;start&quot; so any query about baseline p=
rivacy will not necessarily give you valid information prior to todEstablis=
hed.<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
<div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
At 11:02 AM 7/11/2014, RFC Errata System wrote:<br>
&gt;The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3083,<br>
&gt;&quot;Baseline Privacy Interface Management Information Base for DOCSIS=
 Compliant Cable Modems and Cable Modem Termination Systems&quot;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;--------------------------------------<br>
&gt;You may review the report below and at:<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D3083&amp;e=
id=3D4048" target=3D"_blank">http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rf=
c=3D3083&amp;eid=3D4048</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;--------------------------------------<br>
&gt;Type: Technical<br>
&gt;Reported by: Mark Ellison &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">ellis=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Section: 4<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Original Text<br>
&gt;-------------<br>
&gt;start(1)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Corrected Text<br>
&gt;--------------<br>
&gt;start(1),<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Notes<br>
&gt;-----<br>
&gt;errata # 334 for RFC3083 omits the necessary comma at the end of the in=
serted line 'start(1)'<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Instructions:<br>
&gt;-------------<br>
&gt;This errata is currently posted as &quot;Reported&quot;. If necessary, =
please<br>
&gt;use &quot;Reply All&quot; to discuss whether it should be verified or<b=
r>
&gt;rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)<br>
&gt;can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;--------------------------------------<br>
&gt;RFC3083 (draft-ietf-ipcdn-mcns-bpi-mib-02)<br>
&gt;--------------------------------------<br>
&gt;Title &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Baseline Priva=
cy Interface Management Information Base for DOCSIS Compliant Cable Modems =
and Cable Modem Termination Systems<br>
&gt;Publication Date &nbsp; &nbsp;: March 2001<br>
&gt;Author(s) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : R. Woundy<br>
&gt;Category &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: INFORMATIONAL<br>
&gt;Source &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: IP over Cable =
Data Network<br>
&gt;Area &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Operation=
s and Management<br>
&gt;Stream &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: IETF<br>
&gt;Verifying Party &nbsp; &nbsp; : IESG<br>
&gt;<br>
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