Re: [IPFIX] draft-ietf-ipfix-ie-doctors-02 review

Andrew Feren <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ipfix
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 07/19/2012 05:01 AM, Brian Trammell wrote:

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>>>     After a period of time determined in the eyes
>>>     of the IE-DOCTORS experts to be reasonable in order to allow deployed
>>>     Exporting Processes to be updated to account for the deprecation, a
>>>     deprecated Information Element may be made obsolete.  Obsolete
>>>     Information Elements MUST NOT be supported by either Exporting or
>>>     Collecting Processes.  The receipt of obsolete Information Elements
>> ** ** Nope, not happening. I can't force my customers to upgrade just because some 3rd party says so.
> "MUST NOT be supported by new implementations of either Exporting or Collecting Processes"?
>
> The point here is that if we're going to support deprecation (which was clearly the intent of the WG, given its inclusion in 5102), there may be a mismatch between the deployed and specified environment WRT supported IEs.
>
>
I have to side with Paul on this one.  Saying that a collecting process 
MUST NOT support obsoleted IEs seems to me to violate the robustness 
principle.  An argument can be made that new exporters SHOULD / MUST NOT 
send deprecated IEs, but I think more than that is too much.

To give a specific example of the shelf life of the obsolete. Wikipedia 
tells me that NetFlow v1 is obsolete (and it has been for years), but I 
still see NetFlow v1 exports on some customer networks.

-Andrew
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