Re: [IPFIX] obsoleting obsoletion in 5102-bis and IE-DOCTORS

Paul Aitken <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ipfix
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Brian,

No objection.

Consider VRRP: although VRRP v2 (RFC 3768) was obsoleted by VRRP v3 (RFC 
5798), v2 is still in common use.

We should expect the same for IPFIX IEs: obsolete IEs may continue in 
use for many years because people are unaware, unable, or simply 
unwilling to update.

Can IANA record the obsolescence date individually for each field?

Reviewing draft-ietf-ipfix-ie-doctors-03,

    The use of deprecated Information Elements SHOULD result
    in a log entry or human-readable warning at the Exporting and
    Collecting Processes.


That's just not possible. How can an existing EP know that its IEs have 
been deprecated? - Unless it's able to reference IANA, and method (1) of 
yesterday's discussion is in use.

However, that's not desirable since it allows a third party (whoever 
causes the IANA deprecation) to cause warnings to appear in your tried 
and tested and perfectly good EP - CP setup.

Thanks,
P.


On 22/08/12 12:37, Brian Trammell wrote:
> Greetings, all,
>
> Following the discussion in Vancouver, I propose to modify RFC5102-bis and the IE-DOCTORS draft to remove the 'obsolete' status; the arguments presented there that two different ways to say "this IE is dead" don't really reflect operational realities seem to me to be pretty convincing.
>
> Any objections?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brian
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