Re: [IPFIX] Last Call: <draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt> (Flow Selection Techniques) to Proposed Standard

Benoit Claise <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ipfix
Message-ID <514974F8.9030102__29835.6298394085$1363768681$gmane$org@cisco.com>
Dear authors,

While reviewing draft-ietf-ipfix-mediation-protocol, Rahul got some 
feedback that actually concerns draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech.
Can you please take this into account.

Regards, Benoit

>
>
> Few comments.
>
>  1. Page 8:
>      1. The difference between "Intermediate Selection Process" and
>         "Intermediate Flow Selection Process" is not clear. Is the
>         first one selecting record purely on matching content (value
>         of the fields) in the record and the second one selecting on
>         matching attributes of the fields that are not part of the
>         record in *addition* to matching content in the record? An
>         example would help here.
>
BC> Granted, this is difficult to understand from the definitions only. 
There is some history behind these two separate definitions. Anyway, you 
get it right from your message above.
I was thinking to add to a section 2.1 "Differences between Intermediate 
Selection Process and Intermediate Flow Selection Process" in the 
draft-ietf-ipfix-mediation-protocol draft. However, thinking about it 
some more, this section should really be done in 
draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14, to avoid some more confusion.
There is already section 3. "Difference between Intermediate Flow 
Selection Process and Packet Selection". Some more text should be added 
on the difference between Intermediate Selection Process and 
Intermediate Flow Selection Process

When created, draft-ietf-ipfix-mediation-protocol will refer to that new 
section.

> 1.
>      1. Also in the example " e.g., Filteringonly records from a given
>         network to a given Collector" - Does "given network" means
>         "source-ip/source-prefix of the exporter"?.
>
BC> It means matching the flow records to a certain 
prefix/AS/you-name-it, and exporting those matched flow records to an 
exporter.
See for example, section 6.1 in RFC 6183
This could be explained better in the new section in 
draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech (See previous point)


> The IESG has received a request from the IP Flow Information Export WG
> (ipfix) to consider the following document:
> - 'Flow Selection Techniques'
>    <draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-14.txt> as Proposed Standard
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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> Abstract
>
>
>     Intermediate Flow Selection Process is the process of selecting a
>     subset of Flows from all observed Flows.  The Intermediate Flow
>     Selection Process may be located at an IPFIX Exporter, Collector, or
>     within an IPFIX Mediator.  It reduces the effort of post-processing
>     Flow data and transferring Flow Records.  This document describes
>     motivations for using the Intermediate Flow Selection process and
>     presents Intermediate Flow Selection techniques.  It provides an
>     information model for configuring Intermediate Flow Selection Process
>     techniques and discusses what information about an Intermediate Flow
>     Selection Process should be exported.
>
>
>
>
>
> The file can be obtained via
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech/
>
> IESG discussion can be tracked via
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech/ballot/
>
>
> The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:
>
>     http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1540/
>
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