Re: [IPFIX] [Ie-doctors] Search comments and feedbacks about the draft of IPFIX IE extension when considering BGP community

PJ Aitken <[email protected]> Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:23:22 +0100
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Li, could you draw an example IPFIX template and data record showing the=20
encoding of the bgpSourceCommunityList and bgpDestinationCommunityList ?

This would be a useful appendix in the draft.

P.

On 29/07/16 10:56, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi P. Aitken,
>
> Yes, you are right. We need two IE IDs for each basicList. But 291 is=20
> already there, it is for the IPFIX template IE ID, not 458 or 459.
> 458 or 459 is for the type of each list element. It goes in the Field=20
> ID of the basicList.
>
> bgpSourceCommunityList (458) =3D basic list(291) of bgp community=20
> infromation (defined in RFC1997)  corresponding with source IP address
> bgpDestinationCommunityList (459) =3D basic list(291) of bgp community=20
> infromation (defined in RFC1997)=20
>  corresponding with destination IP address
>
> Here, basic list meas zero or more bgp communities will be contained=20
> in the data set.
>
> Best Regards,
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------=
-
> [email protected]
>
>     *From:* Paul Aitken <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Date:* 2016-07-29 16:30
>     *To:* [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; PJ Aitken
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; Benoit Claise
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; gurong
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>; Dongjie (Jimmy)
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *CC:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; Brian
>     Trammell <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Ie-doctors] [IPFIX] Search comments and feedbacks
>     about the draft of IPFIX IE extension when considering BGP communit=
y
>     Li, two Information Element IDs are required for each basicList:
>
>
>     The first Information Element is the basicList itself. This
>     element ID goes in the IPFIX template "Information Element id"
>     field as usual, per figures G and L of RFC 7011. Effectively this
>     is the outer "container" element.
>
>     IDs 458 and 459 define basicList Information Elements, so these
>     are the first (outer, container) elements.
>
>
>     The second Information Element describes the type of each list
>     element. This goes in the basicList Field ID per Figure 1 of RFC
>     6313. Effectively this is the inner "contained" element.
>
>     It's these second (inner, contained) elements which are missing.
>
>
>     Practically, we could have:
>
>         bgpSourceCommunityList (458) =3D list of bgpSourceAsNumber (16)
>
>     or
>
>         bgpSourceCommunityList (458) =3D list of sourceIPv4Address (8)
>
>     or in fact any other Information Element could be used as the
>     "list of ..." element.
>
>
>     In order to ensure this Information Element is interoperable, the
>     missing element ID should be clearly stated in the draft.
>
>     P.
>
>
>     On 29/07/2016 09:10, [email protected] wrote:
>>     Hello P. Aitken and all,
>>
>>     If the suggested IE numbers are assigned by IANA, 458 not 291
>>     SHOULD be encoded in the Field ID field in the basicList for
>>     bgpSourceCommunityList, and 459 SHOULD be encoded for
>>     bgpDestinationCommunityList.
>>
>>     basicList is an IE type defined in RFC6313. We can use this type
>>     to define new IEs if type basicList is applicable.
>>
>>     Sorry for delayed response.
>>
>>     Best Regards,
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------=
------
>>     [email protected]
>>
>>         *From:* PJ Aitken <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Date:* 2016-07-20 22:49
>>         *To:* Benoit Claise <mailto:[email protected]>; Ariel Gu
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *CC:* lizhenqiang <mailto:[email protected]>; Brian
>>         Trammell <mailto:[email protected]>;
>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>         *Subject:* Re: [IPFIX] Search comments and feedbacks about
>>         the draft of IPFIX IE extension when considering BGP community
>>         When a draft specifies one of the list types, should it also
>>         specify the type of the list elements and the expected semanti=
cs?
>>
>>         Else we could have non-interoperable implementations
>>         exporting the same "IANA standard" information element, where
>>         one is a "basicList of X" while another is a "basicList of Y".
>>         ie, although the IE is the same, the basicList Field ID and
>>         semantics are different. See RFC 6313, Figure 1.)
>>
>>         eg, the BGP community draft referenced below creates a new
>>         bgpSourceCommunityList. I suppose this may be a list of
>>         bgpSourceAsNumber, but that's not specified in the draft - so
>>         it could equally be a list of sourceIPv4Address or any other I=
E.
>>
>>         Alternatively, devices could simply export IE #291
>>         (basicList), with the bgpSourceCommunityList and
>>         bgpDestinationCommunityList disambiguated by the basicList
>>         Field ID contained in the basicList header. However that
>>         would be horrendous for collectors...
>>
>>         P.
>>
>>
>>         On 20/07/16 08:12, Benoit Claise wrote:
>>>         Dear all,
>>>
>>>         We know that the IANA considerations
>>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools=
.ietf.org_html_rfc7012-23section-2D7&d=3DCwMDEA&c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTz=
g&r=3DXx9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm=
68IQNaZBed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&s=3DPT25lVmWADTBAoRFJls07fJ6PTOd2XWc0L4bTWxB3MY&=
e=3D>
>>>         mentions "expert review" for the IPFIX registry
>>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.i=
ana.org_assignments_ipfix_ipfix.xhtml&d=3DCwMDEA&c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jT=
zg&r=3DXx9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVD=
m68IQNaZBed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&s=3Dtbt3wdaVgevcKVTqBEKX_MhNO7g_oaW3XiywAp65WgY=
&e=3D>.
>>>         This BGP community is actually a special IPFIX Information
>>>         Element as this is the first one based on RFC 6313
>>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools=
.ietf.org_html_rfc6313&d=3DCwMDEA&c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&r=3DXx9729xY=
DYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZBed3zfE=
KAlZ4zaux4&s=3DR9ipRubr7eEQrMnskDLzBjeZqhpnmefnWc59t3_ab7s&e=3D>(basicLis=
t,
>>>         subTemplateList, subTemplateMultiList)
>>>         So it deserves special attention, review, and potential
>>>         documentation as its own RFC.
>>>
>>>         Regards, Benoit
>>>
>>>>         Hi, dear all.
>>>>
>>>>         Nice meeting you in the mail-list of IPFIX. This IETF in
>>>>         Berlin right now, we submit a draft and present it about
>>>>         the IPFIX IE extension when considering BGP community. I=E2=80=
=99m
>>>>         looking for comments and feedbacks about our idea in new IE
>>>>         added in exporting the flow information correlated with BGP
>>>>         community. As dear chair told me that the mail-list is
>>>>         still alive, I follow the suggestion of putting my draft
>>>>         here and searching for advice and suggestions in the right
>>>>         place.
>>>>
>>>>         Before that, I made a short summary of my draft which may
>>>>         be helpful in quick looking at the draft. When we consider
>>>>         traffic steering in our backbone network, we feel that the
>>>>         flow information based on BGP community is quite suitable.
>>>>         That=E2=80=99s the reason why we write the draft. And we now
>>>>         recommend two IEs which may be assigned by IANA:
>>>>         bgpSourceCommunityList and bgpDestinationCommunityList.
>>>>
>>>>         If you are facing up with this situations as us, then we
>>>>         can discuss about the IEs especially the details.
>>>>
>>>>         The information of my draft:
>>>>         https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-li-opsawg-ipfix-b=
gp-community-00.txt
>>>>         <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.=
ietf.org_internet-2Ddrafts_draft-2Dli-2Dopsawg-2Dipfix-2Dbgp-2Dcommunity-=
2D00.txt&d=3DCwMDEA&c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&r=3DXx9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt=
5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZBed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&s=3D=
T9dMbA_3xk8ZMfCI0dkNONKt1xL04aoMa8vn_-9FBns&e=3D>
>>>>
>>>>         I=E2=80=99m looking forward for your comments.
>>>>
>>>>         Best regards and have a nice trip in Berlin.
>>>>
>>>>         -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>         Rong Gu
>>>>         China Mobile Research Institute
>>>>         No.32 Xuanwumen West Street, Xicheng District
>>>>         Beijing, China, 100053
>>>>         Mobile: +86 13811520541
>>>>         Phone: +86 10 15801696688 Ext. 36211
>>>>         Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]=
m>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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tf.org_mailman_listinfo_ipfix&d=3DCwICAg&c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&r=3DX=
x9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZ=
Bed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&s=3DmL0br6tuMk78xRPYaHEPxZ5usdrXvvMI1C_g105zdws&e=3D =20
>>
>>
>>
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    Li, could you draw an example IPFIX template and data record showing
    the encoding of the bgpSourceCommunityList and bgp<span
      style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">=
Destination</span>CommunityList
    ?<br>
    <br>
    This would be a useful appendix in the draft.<br>
    <br>
    P.<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 29/07/16 10:56,
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:lizhenqiang@ch=
inamobile.com">[email protected]</a> wrote:<br>
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      <div><span></span>Hi P. Aitken,</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Yes, you are right. We need two IE IDs for each basicList.
        But 291 is already there, it is for the IPFIX template IE ID,
        not 458 or 459.</div>
      <div>458 or 459 is for=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;
          line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">the type of each
          list element. It=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;
          line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">goes in the Field
          ID of the basicList.</span></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>bgpSourceCommunityList (458) =3D basic list(291) of bgp
        community infromation (defined in RFC1997)=C2=A0<span style=3D"co=
lor:
          rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5;
          background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">=C2=A0corresponding=C2=A0w=
ith</span><span
          style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.5pt; line-height:
          1.5; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">=C2=A0source=C2=A0IP=C2=
=A0address</span></div>
      <div>bgp<span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color:
          rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">Destination</span>CommunityList (459) =3D
        basic list(291) of bgp community infromation (defined in
        RFC1997)=C2=A0<span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.5=
pt;
          line-height: 1.5; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">=C2=A0co=
rresponding=C2=A0with</span><span
          style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.5pt; line-height:
          1.5; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0);">=C2=A0d</span><span
          style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0,
          0);">estination</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
          font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5; background-color: rgba(0,
          0, 0, 0);">=C2=A0IP=C2=A0address</span></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Here, basic list meas=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color: rg=
ba(0,
          0, 0, 0); font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5;">zero=C2=A0or=C2=
=A0more
          bgp communities will be contained in the data set.</span></div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Best Regards,</div>
      <hr style=3D"width: 210px; height: 1px;" color=3D"#b5c4df"
        align=3D"left" size=3D"1">
      <div><span>
          <div style=3D"MARGIN: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana; FONT-SIZE:
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            <div><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:liz=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a></div>
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        </span></div>
      <blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
        margin-left: 0.5em;">
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
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            <div><b>From:</b>=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Paul Aitken</a></div>
            <div><b>Date:</b>=C2=A02016-07-29=C2=A016:30</div>
            <div><b>To:</b>=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">lizhenqiang@c=
hinamobile.com</a>;
              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">PJ Aitken</a>; <a
                moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
">Benoit
                Claise</a>; <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">gurong</a>; <a
                moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"><=
a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">ipfix=
@ietf.org</a></a>;
              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">n.brownlee@auck=
land.ac.nz</a>;
              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
u">[email protected]</a>;
              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Dongjie (Jimmy)</a></=
div>
            <div><b>CC:</b>=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
a>;
              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Brian Trammell</a=
></div>
            <div><b>Subject:</b>=C2=A0Re: [Ie-doctors] [IPFIX] Search
              comments and feedbacks about the draft of IPFIX IE
              extension when considering BGP community</div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
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            <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Li, two Information Element ID=
s
              are required for each basicList:<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              The first Information Element is the basicList itself.
              This element ID goes in the IPFIX template "Information
              Element id" field as usual, per figures G and L of RFC
              7011. Effectively this is the outer "container" element.<br=
>
              <br>
              IDs 458 and 459 define basicList Information Elements, so
              these are the first (outer, container) elements.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              The second Information Element describes the type of each
              list element. This goes in the basicList Field ID per
              Figure 1 of RFC 6313. Effectively this is the inner
              "contained" element.<br>
              <br>
              It's these second (inner, contained) elements which are
              missing.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Practically, we could have:<br>
              <br>
              =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 bgpSourceCommunityList (458) =3D list of
              bgpSourceAsNumber (16)<br>
              <br>
              or<br>
              <br>
              =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 bgpSourceCommunityList (458) =3D list of
              sourceIPv4Address (8)<br>
              <br>
              or in fact any other Information Element could be used as
              the "list of ..." element.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              In order to ensure this Information Element is
              interoperable, the missing element ID should be clearly
              stated in the draft.<br>
              <br>
              P.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              On 29/07/2016 09:10, <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">lizhenqiang@c=
hinamobile.com</a>
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote
              cite=3D"mid:[email protected]"
              type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
              margin-left: 0.5em;">
              <div><span></span>Hello P. Aitken and all,</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>If the suggested IE numbers are assigned by IANA, 458
                not 291 SHOULD be encoded in the Field ID field in the
                basicList for=C2=A0<span style=3D"background-color: rgba(=
0, 0,
                  0, 0); font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5;">bgpSourceC=
ommunityList,
                  and 459=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;
                  line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">SHOULD be
                  encoded for=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5p=
t;
                  line-height: 1.5; background-color: window;">bgpDestina=
tionCommunityList.</span></div>
              <div><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5;
                  background-color: window;"><br>
                </span></div>
              <div><span style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 1.5;
                  background-color: window;">basicList is an IE type
                  defined in RFC6313. We can use this type to define new
                  IEs if type basicList is applicable.</span></div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Sorry for delayed response.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Best Regards,</div>
              <hr style=3D"width: 210px; height: 1px;" color=3D"#b5c4df"
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                    <div><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">lizhe=
[email protected]</a></div>
                  </div>
                </span></div>
              <blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;
                margin-left: 0.5em;">
                <div>=C2=A0</div>
                <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                  1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                  <div style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 8px; PADDING-LEFT: 8px;
                    FONT-SIZE: 12px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma;COLOR:#000000;
                    BACKGROUND: #efefef; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px;
                    PADDING-TOP: 8px">
                    <div><b>From:</b>=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"colo=
r:
                        rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">PJ
                        Aitken</a></div>
                    <div><b>Date:</b>=C2=A02016-07-20=C2=A022:49</div>
                    <div><b>To:</b>=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:
                        rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">Ben=
oit
                        Claise</a>; <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"
                        style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                        underline;">Ariel Gu</a>; <a
                        moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:
                        rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;"><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">ipfix@i=
etf.org</a></a>;
                      <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"
                        style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                        underline;">[email protected]</a>; <a
                        moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"color:
                        rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;"><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">quit=
[email protected]</a></a></div>
                    <div><b>CC:</b>=C2=A0<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"
                        style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                        underline;">lizhenqiang</a>; <a
                        moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"
                        style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration:
                        underline;">Brian Trammell</a>; <a
                        moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" style=3D"colo=
r:
                        rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;"><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">ie=
[email protected]</a></a></div>
                    <div><b>Subject:</b>=C2=A0Re: [IPFIX] Search comments=
 and
                      feedbacks about the draft of IPFIX IE extension
                      when considering BGP community</div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div class=3D"FoxDiv20160729155728582415"> When a draft
                    specifies one of the list types, should it also
                    specify the type of the list elements and the
                    expected semantics?<br>
                    <br>
                    Else we could have non-interoperable implementations
                    exporting the same "IANA standard" information
                    element, where one is a "basicList of X" while
                    another is a "basicList of Y".<br>
                    ie, although the IE is the same, the basicList Field
                    ID and semantics are different. See RFC 6313, Figure
                    1.)<br>
                    <br>
                    eg, the BGP community draft referenced below creates
                    a new bgpSourceCommunityList. I suppose this may be
                    a list of bgpSourceAsNumber, but that's not
                    specified in the draft - so it could equally be a
                    list of sourceIPv4Address or any other IE.<br>
                    <br>
                    Alternatively, devices could simply export IE #291
                    (basicList), with the bgpSourceCommunityList and
                    bgpDestinationCommunityList disambiguated by the
                    basicList Field ID contained in the basicList
                    header. However that would be horrendous for
                    collectors...<br>
                    <br>
                    P.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 20/07/16 08:12,
                      Benoit Claise wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote
                      cite=3D"mid:321dd0a3-986a-6df2-ca29-d414929f36bc@ci=
sco.com"
                      type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bott=
om:
                      0px; margin-left: 0.5em;">
                      <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Dear all,<br>
                        <br>
                        We know that the <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf=
.org_html_rfc7012-23section-2D7&amp;d=3DCwMDEA&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2=
jTzg&amp;r=3DXx9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&amp;m=3DZslthyAR=
_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZBed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&amp;s=3DPT25lVmWADTBAoRFJls07fJ6PTOd2=
XWc0L4bTWxB3MY&amp;e=3D"
                          style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193);
                          text-decoration: underline;">IANA
                          considerations</a> mentions "expert review"
                        for the <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.iana.o=
rg_assignments_ipfix_ipfix.xhtml&amp;d=3DCwMDEA&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi=
2jTzg&amp;r=3DXx9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&amp;m=3DZslthyA=
R_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZBed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&amp;s=3Dtbt3wdaVgevcKVTqBEKX_MhNO7g_=
oaW3XiywAp65WgY&amp;e=3D"
                          style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193);
                          text-decoration: underline;">IPFIX registry</a>=
.<br>
                        This BGP community is actually a special IPFIX
                        Information Element as this is the first one
                        based on <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf=
.org_html_rfc6313&amp;d=3DCwMDEA&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&amp;r=3DX=
x9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&amp;m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm68I=
QNaZBed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&amp;s=3DR9ipRubr7eEQrMnskDLzBjeZqhpnmefnWc59t3_ab7s=
&amp;e=3D"
                          style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193);
                          text-decoration: underline;">RFC 6313=C2=A0 </a=
>(basicList,
                        subTemplateList, subTemplateMultiList) <br>
                        So it deserves special attention, review, and
                        potential documentation as its own RFC.<br>
                        <br>
                        Regards, Benoit<br>
                        =C2=A0<br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote
                        cite=3D"mid:002501d1e1c2$8fb45440$af1cfcc0$@china=
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                        <div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page:
                          WordSection1;">
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, dear all.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">Nice meeting you in the
                              mail-list of IPFIX. This IETF in Berlin
                              right now, we submit a draft and present
                              it about the IPFIX IE extension when
                              considering BGP community. I=E2=80=99m look=
ing for
                              comments and feedbacks about our idea in
                              new IE added in exporting the flow
                              information correlated with BGP community.
                              As dear chair told me that the mail-list
                              is still alive, I follow the suggestion of
                              putting my draft here and searching for
                              advice and suggestions in the right place.
                              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">Before that, I made a short
                              summary of my draft which may be helpful
                              in quick looking at the draft. When we
                              consider traffic steering in our backbone
                              network, we feel that the flow information
                              based on BGP community is quite suitable.
                              That=E2=80=99s the reason why we write the =
draft.
                              And we now recommend two IEs which may be
                              assigned by IANA: bgpSourceCommunityList
                              and bgpDestinationCommunityList. <o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">If you are facing up with
                              this situations as us, then we can discuss
                              about the IEs especially the details. <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">The information of my draft:
                              <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.ietf.o=
rg_internet-2Ddrafts_draft-2Dli-2Dopsawg-2Dipfix-2Dbgp-2Dcommunity-2D00.t=
xt&amp;d=3DCwMDEA&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&amp;r=3DXx9729xYDYoCgBDd=
cp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&amp;m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZBed3zfEKAlZ=
4zaux4&amp;s=3DT9dMbA_3xk8ZMfCI0dkNONKt1xL04aoMa8vn_-9FBns&amp;e=3D"
                                target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: rgb(5, =
99,
                                193); text-decoration: underline;"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Microsoft YaHei
                                  UI&quot;,sans-serif;background:white">h=
ttps://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-li-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-0=
0.txt</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">I=E2=80=99m looking forward =
for your
                              comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0px 0cm=
;
                            text-align: justify; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span
                              lang=3D"EN-US">Best regards and have a nice
                              trip in Berlin.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            justify; margin: 0px 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt;
                            font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
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-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                            align=3D"left"><span
                              style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
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                              lang=3D"EN-US">Rong Gu<br>
                              China Mobile Research Institute<br>
                              No.32 Xuanwumen West Street, Xicheng
                              District<br>
                              Beijing, China, 100053<br>
                              Mobile: +86 13811520541<br>
                              Phone: +86 10 15801696688 Ext. 36211<br>
                              Email: <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                                href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"
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ilto:[email protected]" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: un=
derline;">[email protected]</a>
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stinfo_ipfix&amp;d=3DCwICAg&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&amp;r=3DXx9729=
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stinfo_ipfix&amp;d=3DCwICAg&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&amp;r=3DXx9729=
xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&amp;m=3DZslthyAR_pCMk0ceVDm68IQNaZB=
ed3zfEKAlZ4zaux4&amp;s=3DmL0br6tuMk78xRPYaHEPxZ5usdrXvvMI1C_g105zdws&amp;=
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ilto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
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stinfo_ie-2Ddoctors&amp;d=3DCwMFaQ&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&amp;r=3D=
Xx9729xYDYoCgBDdcp1FKt5PyYd1TCoXNKhyPY8CFp8&amp;m=3DeXHZXBo2bniIzTj9Jxowo=
ZFeXHP9sN5TyHiIRFadbUU&amp;s=3D_Fp4t5FlAi1myeFRPghMX9TLJVvOZL5St3m77vaLL-=
U&amp;e=3D">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ie-doctors</a>
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