RE: Please read - proposed WG termination

Yaron,

If the issue and possible solutions lie completely within L2
(i.e. IB) the work doesn't seem to belong here. If it involves
layer 3 you will have to convince the ADs, who are in doubt
if there is sufficient interest on the approved charter work,
let alone any new work.

Jerry

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>Jerry,
>
>I believe there is one issue that deserves further attention
>Which is delivering highly available IPoIB solutions 
>
>In traditional GbE MAC faking techniques can be used to fail over
>between hosts or between routers (e.g. VRRP)
>Unfortunately this is not applicable to IPoIB (given the IB routing & SA
>structure)
>
>Going into more commercial/enterprise environments this becomes a real
>necessity, today some vendors (including us) use proprietary solutions
>however a standard approach is required 
>
>I proposed few directions in the pass to address the problem, e.g. using
>UNARP (like Sonet does) or using the SA/SM 
>
>Yaron
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of H.K. Jerry Chu
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:38 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
>> Subject: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination
>> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> With the DHCP over IB draft in IESG's hand, we are done with all
>> the basic IPoIB work, including the architecture (informational),
>> encapsulation, and DHCP (standard tracked). Now seems a good time
>> to decide the next step for the WG.
>> 
>> The work on IPoIB connected mode and most of the MIB drafts started
>> a while back (2003/2002). Over the years the interest/participation
>> level on these work has not been high, and now the work seems to drag
>> on indefinitely. The AD has recently questioned whether the remaining
>> work should be continued or not.
>> 
>> The following is a quick update on their status:
>> 
>> 1. IPoIB connected mode
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-connected-mode-00.txt
>> updated recently
>> 
>> 2. MIB drafts
>> IPoIB Textual Conventions MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-ibmib-tc-mib-06.txt
>> 
>> IPoIB InfiniBand Interfaces MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-ibif-mib-07.txt
>> 
>> IPoIB subnet Management Agent MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-mgmt-agent-mib-07.txt
>> 
>> IPoIB Channel Adapter MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-channel-adapter-mib-06.txt
>> 
>> IPoIB Baseboard Management Agent MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-baseboard-mgmt-agent-mib-02.txt
>> 
>> IPoIB performance Management Agent MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-perf-mgmt-agent-mib-03.txt
>> 
>> The above 6 MIB drafts have gone through the
>> MIB doctor (Randy Presuhn) review late 2003 and
>> updated accordingly. All the updated drafts expired
>> in April 2005.
>> 
>> 3. IPoIB Subnet Manager MIB
>> draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-manager-mib-00.txt
>> 
>> Submitted 3/2004 but has expired too.
>> 
>> If you want to see any of the above work continue in the WG,
>> AND is willing to participate to get the work completed, please
>> speak up NOW! You will have until Sep. 20 to do so. After
>> that unless there is evidence a "sufficient" interest level
>> on any of the work above still exists, the WG will be disbanded
>> (or become dormant in order to handle the on-going work on
>> the standard-tracked RFCs) and the unfinished work abandoned.
>> 
>> Note that authors of the above drafts may choose to resubmit
>> their drafts as individual submissions if they want to continue
>> to pursue their work at IETF.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Jerry & Bill
>> 
>> IPoIB co-chairs
>> 
>> 
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