RE: Please read - proposed WG termination

At 03:29 PM 8/29/2005, Yaron Haviv wrote:
>IB availability is defined today and one can migrate between ports and 
>given the use of UD, can easily migrate between HCA either completely or 
>relatively transparent to the network stack using the IB methods or the 
>same IP address update using the same methods deployed today on all OS 
>offerings.  In the end, it really is an implementation issue and fixing 
>the OpenSM implementations not an IETF issue to resolve any deficiencies.
>
>Mike
>
><Yaron>
>Mike, the solution that may work over IB is sending gratuitous ARPs
>This doesn't cover all the cases, e.g. how would VRRP or MAC faking work 
>over IB ?
>
>By nature an IPoIB endpoint also contains QPs, so even theoretically an SM 
>cannot deal with the problem
>If we want to address interoperability between different vendors I believe 
>we need to address it through standardization
>
>If you believe there is a solution that addresses my concerns and can be 
>done in a standard/interoperable way please let me know

I believe this is an OpenIB / OpenSM or IBTA problem space to solve not the 
IETF.

Mike

>
>Yaron
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [ mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of H.K. Jerry Chu
> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:38 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: [Ipoverib] Please read - proposed WG termination
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > With the DHCP over IB draft in IESG's hand, we are done with all
> > the basic IPoIB work, including the architecture (informational),
> > encapsulation, and DHCP (standard tracked). Now seems a good time
> > to decide the next step for the WG.
> >
> > The work on IPoIB connected mode and most of the MIB drafts started
> > a while back (2003/2002). Over the years the interest/participation
> > level on these work has not been high, and now the work seems to drag
> > on indefinitely. The AD has recently questioned whether the remaining
> > work should be continued or not.
> >
> > The following is a quick update on their status:
> >
> > 1. IPoIB connected mode
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-connected-mode-00.txt
> > updated recently
> >
> > 2. MIB drafts
> > IPoIB Textual Conventions MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-ibmib-tc-mib-06.txt
> >
> > IPoIB InfiniBand Interfaces MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-ibif-mib-07.txt
> >
> > IPoIB subnet Management Agent MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-mgmt-agent-mib-07.txt
> >
> > IPoIB Channel Adapter MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-channel-adapter-mib-06.txt
> >
> > IPoIB Baseboard Management Agent MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-baseboard-mgmt-agent-mib-02.txt
> >
> > IPoIB performance Management Agent MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-perf-mgmt-agent-mib-03.txt
> >
> > The above 6 MIB drafts have gone through the
> > MIB doctor (Randy Presuhn) review late 2003 and
> > updated accordingly. All the updated drafts expired
> > in April 2005.
> >
> > 3. IPoIB Subnet Manager MIB
> > draft-ietf-ipoib-subnet-manager-mib-00.txt
> >
> > Submitted 3/2004 but has expired too.
> >
> > If you want to see any of the above work continue in the WG,
> > AND is willing to participate to get the work completed, please
> > speak up NOW! You will have until Sep. 20 to do so. After
> > that unless there is evidence a "sufficient" interest level
> > on any of the work above still exists, the WG will be disbanded
> > (or become dormant in order to handle the on-going work on
> > the standard-tracked RFCs) and the unfinished work abandoned.
> >
> > Note that authors of the above drafts may choose to resubmit
> > their drafts as individual submissions if they want to continue
> > to pursue their work at IETF.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Jerry & Bill
> >
> > IPoIB co-chairs
> >
> >
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