Re: IPoIB TC MIB

"David M. Brean" <[email protected]> Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:08:12 -0500
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Hal Rosenstock wrote:

> Hi David,
>  
> Are you referring to the IBA definition of partition ?


Yes.

> Then my quibble is with this. If full and limited members are in the 
> same partition, it seems there are 2 PKeys for the partition (and look 
> at the valuie range for ibPartitionKey) so my comment is then as follows:
>  


Yes, there are two different 16-bit P_Keys that can be used by ports 
communicating in the same partition.

> While ibPartition is a 16 bit value, it is filled with the low 15 bits 
> of the PKey with the high bit being zero. That is not clear (and that 
> is how I think it needs to be used).
>  

> I want a partition based table (with full and limited members) not 
> separate ones (for full and limited members).
>  


In general, I'd prefer to have the membership bit exposed since it 
impacts the communication capabilities of a port in a partition.  Also, 
I'm not sure what you mean by "not separate ones" because a P_Key table 
can store P_Keys with both full and limited membership.

-David

> -- Hal
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* David M. Brean <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *To:* Hal Rosenstock <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Cc:* IPoverIB <mailto:[email protected]>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:09 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Ipoverib] IPoIB TC MIB
>
>     Hello,
>
>     Hal Rosenstock wrote:
>
>>     Hi,
>>      
>>     In draft-ietf-ipoib-ibmib-tc-mib-07.txt, there is ibPartitionKey
>>     as follows:
>>      
>>
>>IbPartitionKey ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
>>    DISPLAY-HINT "x"
>>    STATUS      current
>>    DESCRIPTION
>>       "The 16-bit Partition Key."
>>    SYNTAX Unsigned32 (0..65535)
>>
>>How about an ibPartition with a definition something like the following:
>>
>>IbPartition ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
>>    DISPLAY-HINT "x"
>>    STATUS      current
>>    DESCRIPTION
>>       "The 15-bit Partition Key Base without the membership bit."
>>    SYNTAX Unsigned32 (0..32767)
>>
>
>     A partition has full and limited members where all 16-bits define
>     the partition.  In fact, text says "A collection of endnodes with
>     the same P_Key in their P_Key Tables are referred to as being
>     members of a partition, or in a partition. A P_Key Table can
>     specify one of two types of partition membership: Limited or
>     Full."  So, I think that you should choose a different name, if
>     this is needed.  Also, how do you propose to use this new definition?
>
>     By the way, a nit: the MIB also defines the "IbSmPortList".  Can
>     it be called "IbSmaPortList" or "IbPortList"?  It's used in the
>     SMA MIB.
>
>     -David
>
>> 
>>
>>-- Hal
>>
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Hal Rosenstock wrote:<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Are you referring to the IBA
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Yes.<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"> Then my quibble is with this. If
full and limited members are in the same partition, it seems there are
2 PKeys for the partition (and look at the valuie range for
ibPartitionKey) so m</font><font face="Arial" size="2">y comment is
then as follows:</font></div>
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Yes, there are two different 16-bit P_Keys that can be used by ports
communicating in the same partition.<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">While ibPartition is a 16 bit value,
it is filled with the low 15 bits of the PKey with the high bit being
zero. That is not clear (and that is how I think it needs to be used).</font></div>
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<blockquote cite="[email protected]"
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I want a partition based table (with
full and limited members) not separate ones (for full and limited
members).</font></div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
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<br>
In general, I'd prefer to have the membership bit exposed since it
impacts the communication capabilities of a port in a partition.&nbsp; Also,
I'm not sure what you mean by "not separate ones" because a P_Key table
can store P_Keys with both full and limited membership.<br>
<br>
-David<br>
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  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">-- Hal</font></div>
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Re: [Ipoverib] IPoIB TC MIB</div>
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    <tt>Hello,</tt><br>
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Hal Rosenstock wrote:<br>
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      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi,</font></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">In
draft-ietf-ipoib-ibmib-tc-mib-07.txt, there is ibPartitionKey as
follows:</font></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><!--StartFragment -->
      <pre>IbPartitionKey ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
    DISPLAY-HINT "x"
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
       "The 16-bit Partition Key."
    SYNTAX Unsigned32 (0..65535)</pre>
      <pre><font face="Arial" size="2">How about an ibPartition with a definition something like the following:</font></pre>
      <pre><!--StartFragment --><pre>IbPartition ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
    DISPLAY-HINT "x"
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
       "The 15-bit Partition Key Base without the membership bit."
    SYNTAX Unsigned32 (0..32767)</pre></pre>
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A partition has full and limited members where all 16-bits define the
partition.&nbsp; In fact, text says "A collection of endnodes with the same
P_Key in their P_Key Tables are referred to as being members of a
partition, or in a partition. A P_Key Table can specify one of two
types of partition membership: Limited or Full."&nbsp; So, I think that you
should choose a different name, if this is needed.&nbsp; Also, how do you
propose to use this new definition?<br>
    <br>
By the way, a nit: the MIB also defines the "IbSmPortList".&nbsp; Can it be
called "IbSmaPortList" or "IbPortList"?&nbsp; It's used in the SMA MIB.<br>
    <br>
-David<br>
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      <pre><pre>&nbsp;</pre><pre><font face="Arial" size="2">-- Hal</font></pre></pre>
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