Re: draft of a core protocol spec

"A.Herrera" <[email protected]> Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:51:48 -0500
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RE: [IPORPR] draft of a core protocol specHi Glenn,

I find a few references to RPR specifications to be
quite helpful when trying to describe IP functions
that can run over it.

However, I share your concern of two different=20
sources, no matter how similar, to potentially
confuse.=20

Can't we somehow keep the reference in IPORPR=20
drafts by specifying in bold and unmistakable=20
blurb that -- 'This section does not, in any=20
official or definitive way, present the actual=20
802.17 specification. For an accurate representation=20
of the specification, please refer to the most=20
current IEEE documentation.'

Albert  =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Glenn Parsons=20
  To: [email protected]=20
  Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:36 PM
  Subject: RE: [IPORPR] draft of a core protocol spec


  Frank,=20

  You have noted the various minor corrections to the details on RPR =
that you have included in this draft.  However, I have a more =
fundamental concern.  As we are doing for the RPR MIB, I believe that =
the specification for RPR should be definitively in IEEE 802.17.  That =
is, your proposed document (or any IETF document) should not include any =
details of RPR that could be construed as being a definition.  Even if a =
subset of the RPR definition looks the same, I would suggest that it may =
be interpreted differently.  That is something we want to avoid.  This =
document should only describe the payload format when it is IP, the =
details of RPR are irrelevant (since it is a broadcast media).

  As such, I would recommend that all of the RPR pedagogy (all of =
section 3 and most of 4) be deleted.=20

  Cheers,=20
  Glenn.=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Glenn,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I find a few references to RPR specifications to=20
be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>quite helpful when trying to describe IP=20
functions</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>that can run over it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>However, I share your concern of two different =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>sources, no matter how similar, to =
potentially</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>confuse. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Can't we somehow keep the reference in </FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>IPORPR </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>drafts by specifying in bold and </FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>unmistakable </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>blurb that -- </FONT><FONT size=3D2>'This section =
does not, in=20
any&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>official or </FONT><FONT size=3D2>definitive =
</FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>way, present&nbsp;the actual </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>802.17 specification. For an </FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>accurate=20
representation </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>of the specification, please&nbsp;</FONT><FONT =
size=3D2>refer to=20
the&nbsp;most </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>current IEEE documentation.'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Albert</FONT><FONT =
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  protocol spec</DIV>
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  <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Frank,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>You have noted the =
various minor=20
  corrections to the details on RPR that you have included in this =
draft.&nbsp;=20
  However, I have a more fundamental concern.&nbsp; As we are doing for =
the RPR=20
  MIB, I believe that the specification for RPR should be definitively =
in IEEE=20
  802.17.&nbsp; That is, your proposed document (or any IETF document) =
should=20
  not include any details of RPR that could be construed as being a=20
  definition.&nbsp; Even if a subset of the RPR definition looks the =
same, I=20
  would suggest that it may be interpreted differently.&nbsp; That is =
something=20
  we want to avoid.&nbsp; This document should only describe the payload =
format=20
  when it is IP, the details of RPR are irrelevant (since it is a =
broadcast=20
  media).</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>As such, I would =
recommend that all=20
  of the RPR pedagogy (all of section 3 and most of 4) be =
deleted.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT> =
<BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
  color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Glenn.</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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