Re: rationale to send PDUs in increasing CmdSn onsingle connection

Julian Satran <[email protected]> Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:23:34 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.ips
Message-ID <OF20389E18.44C2CD87-ONC2257379.0075523E-C2257379.00758333@il.ibm.com>
yes it is must and besides being pointless sending out of order would 
break some assumptions about detecting missing items (as Pat has nicely 
outlined in her note).

Julo



From:
William Studenmund <[email protected]>
To:
Eddy Quicksall <[email protected]>
Cc:
Parav Pandit <[email protected]>, Julian Satran/Haifa/IBM@IBMIL, Ips 
<[email protected]>
Date:
19/10/07 19:07
Subject:
Re: [Ips] rationale to send PDUs in increasing CmdSn    onsingle 
connection



On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:03 AM, Eddy Quicksall wrote:

Julian, below you said "no" to #2. But is there a restriction in the RFC 
(maybe I just don't remember it)? I agree it has no practical value but I 
have used it to test my re-ordering logic with only one connection.

Parav quoted a MUST from the RFC on this, so I'd call that a restriction. 
:-)

I agree that it's a reasonable thing to do to test re-ordering logic. But 
I think that test environments don't count in that to be a good test of 
error handling, they _must_ break the spec. :-) Otherwise it's 
exceptionally difficult to reproducibly test how devices handle error 
conditions. :-)

Take care,

Bill

---- Original Message -----
From: Julian Satran
To: Parav Pandit
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Ips] rationale to send PDUs in increasing CmdSn onsingle 
connection



Parav Pandit <[email protected]> wrote on 31/08/2007 12:52:04:

> Hi,
> 
> RFC 3720, section 3.2.2.1 says 
> 
> "On any connection, the iSCSI initiator MUST send the
> commands in increasing order of CmdSN, except for
> commands that are retransmitted due to digest error
> recovery and connection recovery. "
> 
> (Assuming Single TCP connection ISCSI session)
> 
> 1. I interpret above 3.2.2.1 statement as 
> SCSI layer gives SCSI commands to the ISCSI stack in
> the order of Cmd-1 and Cmd-2. 
> Cmd-1 will have CmdSn = 10.
> Cmd-2 will have CmdSn = 11.
> ISCSI stack CAN send PDUs to the TCP layer in
> following order ONLY.
> PDU-1 with Cmd-1.
> PDU-2 with Cmd-2.
> 
> Is this correct interpretation?
> Or
> 
Yes 
> 2. On a SINGLE connection can ISCSI stack send the 
> PDU-1 with Cmd-2 followed by 
> PDU-2 with Cmd-1?
> 
NO
> Assuming the answer of the question #2 is No,
> 
> 3. If there are multiple connections in a session then
> command MAY any way reach out of order. And targets
> need to wait for the previous expected commands.
> 
> So targets will receive out of order ISCSI PDUs from
> the TCP layer and ISCSI stack handles them.
> 
> So then why initiators have restriction of sending
> command in the increasing order of CmdSn on SINGLE TCP
> connection?
> 
To simplify recovery and to...
> Is it to simplify the implementation of targets
> supporting only single TCP connection?
> 
> 

and there was no visible motivation for out of order commands on a single 
connection

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