RE: New name for TRIP-GW

Dhaval Shah <[email protected]> Sat, 07 Sep 2002 11:14:07 -0700
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Hi Folx,

Based on:

1. Jonathan's  initial analogy with grep, which is cool
2. The suggestion for something denoting telephony in the name
3. Sounding,

my 2 cents on this is TGREP (Telephony Gateway Registration Protocol).

Thx,
Dhaval

At 12:44 PM 9/7/2002 +0530, [email protected] wrote:

>I too agree with Radhika and Roberto. I believe  the iptel workgroup should
>not do away with "T" (read telephony) in the protocol  naming convention.
>Telephony is the essence of iptel and its work. TGRP conveys the functional
>meaning succinctly.
>
>
>Regards,
>Rakesh Khemani.
>L & T Infotech Ltd.
>Bangalore, India.
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>I agree with Radhika and in my opinion the pronunciation of TGRP is better
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>Regards
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>Roberto Crizza
>EDS Brazil
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roy, Radhika R, ALASO [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 17:09
>To: Jonathan Rosenberg; list iptel
>Subject: RE: [IPTEL] New name for TRIP-GW
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>I believe that the Gateway Registration Protocol (GREP) is too broad a
>term. In fact, this registration protocol is only applicable for the
>PSTN-IP Telephony GWs for registration of the routable telephone
>numbers.
>
>So, I propose the name as follows:
>
>"Telephony Gateway Registration Protocol (TGRP)"
>
>Thanks,
>
>Radhika R. Roy
>AT&T
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:42 PM
>To: list iptel
>Subject: [IPTEL] New name for TRIP-GW
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I'd like to propose a name change for the TRIP-GW (aka TRIP-LITE)
>protocol.
>
>The reason is, as written, TRIP-GW is not actually an extension to TRIP.
>
>Nor is it a subset of TRIP. It differs in the consolidation process
>defined in the spec. This process, which allows an LS to keep multiple
>routes to the same prefix, for example, is not compatible with the
>decision process of TRIP. Its complementary, to be certain, but thats
>not the same. If you took a normal TRIP LS and put it in front of a
>TRIP-GW gateway, it would probably not do the right thing. It would
>function, I think, but you would not be able to implement the
>appropriate policies to process the information being generated by the
>gateways.
>
>Do people concur with this view?
>
>If so, I would propose that we rename the protocol to the Gateway
>Registration Protocol (GREP). I think the acronym is neat; the protocol
>is used to search for a gateway, sort of, so grep (in the unix sense)
>kind of works.
>
>The protocol syntax and semantics remain unchanged. We will simply
>indicate that large pieces of TRIP are used wholesale by this protocol,
>referring the user to the appropriate sections of the TRIP spec.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>Jonathan R.
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Based on:<br>
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1. Jonathan's&nbsp; initial analogy with grep, which is cool<br>
2. The suggestion for something denoting telephony in the name<br>
3. Sounding,<br>
<br>
my 2 cents on this is TGREP (Telephony Gateway Registration
Protocol).<br>
<br>
Thx,<br>
Dhaval<br>
<br>
At 12:44 PM 9/7/2002 +0530, [email protected] wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3Dcite cite>I too agree with Radhika and Roberto. I
believe&nbsp; the iptel workgroup should<br>
not do away with &quot;T&quot; (read telephony) in the protocol&nbsp;
naming convention.<br>
Telephony is the essence of iptel and its work. TGRP conveys the
functional<br>
meaning succinctly.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Rakesh Khemani.<br>
L &amp; T Infotech Ltd.<br>
Bangalore, India.<br>
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I agree with Radhika and in my opinion the pronunciation of TGRP is
better<br>
than GREP.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Roberto Crizza<br>
EDS Brazil<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Roy, Radhika R, ALASO
[<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=
 eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:[email protected]</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 17:09<br>
To: Jonathan Rosenberg; list iptel<br>
Subject: RE: [IPTEL] New name for TRIP-GW<br>
<br>
<br>
I believe that the Gateway Registration Protocol (GREP) is too broad
a<br>
term. In fact, this registration protocol is only applicable for=20
the<br>
PSTN-IP Telephony GWs for registration of the routable telephone<br>
numbers.<br>
<br>
So, I propose the name as follows:<br>
<br>
&quot;Telephony Gateway Registration Protocol (TGRP)&quot;<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Radhika R. Roy<br>
AT&amp;T<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jonathan Rosenberg
[<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=
 eudora=3D"autourl">mailto:[email protected]</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:42 PM<br>
To: list iptel<br>
Subject: [IPTEL] New name for TRIP-GW<br>
<br>
<br>
Folks,<br>
<br>
I'd like to propose a name change for the TRIP-GW (aka TRIP-LITE)<br>
protocol.<br>
<br>
The reason is, as written, TRIP-GW is not actually an extension to
TRIP.<br>
<br>
Nor is it a subset of TRIP. It differs in the consolidation process<br>
defined in the spec. This process, which allows an LS to keep
multiple<br>
routes to the same prefix, for example, is not compatible with the<br>
decision process of TRIP. Its complementary, to be certain, but
thats<br>
not the same. If you took a normal TRIP LS and put it in front of a<br>
TRIP-GW gateway, it would probably not do the right thing. It would<br>
function, I think, but you would not be able to implement the<br>
appropriate policies to process the information being generated by
the<br>
gateways.<br>
<br>
Do people concur with this view?<br>
<br>
If so, I would propose that we rename the protocol to the Gateway<br>
Registration Protocol (GREP). I think the acronym is neat; the
protocol<br>
is used to search for a gateway, sort of, so grep (in the unix
sense)<br>
kind of works.<br>
<br>
The protocol syntax and semantics remain unchanged. We will simply<br>
indicate that large pieces of TRIP are used wholesale by this
protocol,<br>
referring the user to the appropriate sections of the TRIP spec.<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Jonathan R.<br>
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