Re: Comments on RFC2806bis

p.s.  If it is not dial-able outside of Austria, what is the point in 
pre-fixing it with 43?  Wouldn't it be more accurate to leave that off and 
mark it as a national call?

Mike


At 12:07 AM 5/23/2002 +0100, Lawrence Conroy wrote:
>At 6:38 pm -0400 22/5/02, Michael Hammer wrote:
>>At 05:34 PM 5/22/2002 +0100, Lawrence Conroy wrote:
>>>At 3:52 pm -0400 21/5/02, Michael Hammer wrote:
>>>>It would not be a good idea to use a local dial plan in an 
>>>>international number format as suggested for Vienna.
>>>>
>>>>In response to my earlier posting
>>>>>
>>>>>The context is a qualifier on the applicability of the URI. It's not
>>>>>really more than one parameter - The single parameter 'phone-context' can
>>>>>have more than one value. This can happen due to introduction of 
>>>>>relief codes,
>>>>>or the Vienna case, where there are two codes to dial Vienna (within 
>>>>>Austria).
>>>>>Thus a Viennese phone could have two values for its phone context (01 
>>>>>and the
>>>>>old code - can't remember what this is, off hand). As an aside, the 
>>>>>old code
>>>>>is not valid outside Austria, so writing this in International form is 
>>>>>strange.
>>>
>>>To which I respond:
>>>Hi Mike, folks,
>>>
>>>(This may be where we get to counting the number of Angels on a pinhead :)
>>>
>>>Strictly, the old code is blocked at the International Gateway Exchange.
>>>Thus it can be written as a valid E.164 number; it is just blocked from
>>>International origination. Both versions are unambiguous, it's just that
>>>one is not routable from some origination points.
>>>
>>>+43-22-123456 - is this an E.164 number?
>>>+43-1-123456 - is this an E.164 number?
>>>If these are dialled from within Austria, they should terminate at the same
>>>'phone. If you try to dial the first variant outside Austria, it's blocked.
>>
>>I don't understand how you can call the number international if it is 
>>blocked when dialed outside Austria.  Isn't that an oxymoron of some type?
>
>Nope.
>There are numbers that can be called between several networks and within a 
>Group of Countries but are not universally available. Try phoning North Korea.
>An E.164 number is globally unique, not necessarily globally routable.
>=> It's a strange one if 'tis an Oxymoron.
>
>>>Thus, I'm not sure I understand the concern.
>I still don't.
>
>atb,
>   Lawrence
>
>
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