[manet] Re: [IPv6]IPv6 Address for Ad Hoc Networks

Bob Hinden <[email protected]> Fri, 2 Aug 2024 09:03:41 -1000
Newsgroups	gmane.ietf.manet,gmane.ietf.ipv6
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
Fred,

> On Aug 2, 2024, at 8:50 AM, Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Bob, thank you for your comment. I would like to propose a "meet halfway" solution in which
> the specific prefixes are removed from the main body of the document but may be mentioned
> in a non-normative appendix - would that work?

No, I think it's still a distraction.

Bob


> 
> Fred
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Hinden <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2024 11:35 AM
>> To: Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Bob Hinden <[email protected]>; IPv6 List <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [IPv6]IPv6 Address for Ad Hoc Networks
>> 
>> Fred,
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2024, at 11:40 AM, Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, this draft has been updated based on feedback from the IETF120 6MAN and MANET working
>>> group sessions where the work was presented. The updates include:
>>> 
>>> - Drop support for fec0::/10 - reason: RFC3879 deprecation has rendered this prefix inoperable
>>> - Use prefix 2001:20::/28 [RFC7343][RFC7401] as "Type-1" Multilink-Local Address (MLA) prefix
>>> - Use prefix 2001:30::/28 [RFC9374] as "Type-2" MLA prefix
>>> - Allow future documents to define new MLA types, if necessary
>> 
>> IMHO, this draft should not specify any specific prefixes.   It should all be “To be assigned”.   Including it now is a distraction to the more
>> important question.
>> 
>> I think the question that needs to be answered is:  Is there a real need for Ad Hoc IPv6 addresses?   Focusing now on the details or which or
>> how many prefixes it might use doesn’t address that.
>> 
>> Bob (w/ no hats)
>> 
>> 
>>> While MANETs represent a natural basic use case, the IPv6 Ad Hoc network addressing
>>> scheme applies to all manners of IPv6 networks and not just those that fall within the auspices
>>> of the MANET working group. The work is therefore in scope for the larger Internet area in
>>> general the same as RFC5889, but is more specifically targeted for 6MAN due to its exclusive
>>> focus on IPv6. For full context, please view the IETF120 MANET session presentation beginning
>>> at the 22minute mark here:
>>> 
>>> https://play.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/?session=IETF120-MANET-20240726-1630
>>> 
>>> Please review and comment so that this essential work can move forward.
>>> 
>>> Thank you - Fred Templin
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2024 12:49 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-templin-6man-mla-19.txt
>>> 
>>> Internet-Draft draft-templin-6man-mla-19.txt is now available.
>>> 
>>>  Title:   IPv6 Addresses for Ad Hoc Networks
>>>  Author:  Fred L. Templin
>>>  Name:    draft-templin-6man-mla-19.txt
>>>  Pages:   13
>>>  Dates:   2024-08-01
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>> 
>>>  Ad Hoc networks often present a challenging environment for IPv6
>>>  addressing due to the indeterminant neighborhood properties of their
>>>  interfaces.  IPv6 nodes must assign IPv6 addresses to their interface
>>>  connections to Ad Hoc networks that are locally unique but must not
>>>  be propagated to other networks.  IPv6 nodes must therefore be able
>>>  to assign self-generated addresses to their interfaces when there are
>>>  no IPv6 Internetworking routers present that can coordinate topology-
>>>  relative IPv6 addresses or prefixes.  This document specifies IPv6
>>>  address types that can be assigned to Ad Hoc network interfaces.
>>> 
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-6man-mla/
>>> 
>>> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-templin-6man-mla-19
>>> 
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-templin-6man-mla-19
>>> 
>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>> 
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