Re: [Bier] BAR field length in draft-ietf-bier-isis-extensions and draft-ietf-bier-ospf-extensions

Alia Atlas <[email protected]> Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:08:35 -0500
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Ice,

I forgot to add - of course - that I understand you have already stated
that you don't have any technical objections to the current status.

Regards,
Alia

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Alia Atlas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ice,
>
> At this point in the process, it would be necessary to make an
> overwhelming technical argument - that would sway almost the whole
> WG to your perspective.
>
> I see you saying that you have a personal preference for having the IGP
> Algorithm registry also be used for the BAR registry.   While
> I do, of course, respect where you have technical expertise, my response -
> particularly from a process perspective - is "that's nice".
>
> Regards,
> Alia
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:15 PM, IJsbrand Wijnands <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Alia,
>>
>> > An architectural argument can't also limit itself to the drafts in the
>> title.
>> >
>> > If it sounded like the IANA registry was suggested as separate for BIER
>> OSPF  and BIER ISIS, then your attempt to reframe the conversation might be
>> reasonable.  Let me clarify - I see no current reason for an OSPF BAR
>> registry and an ISIS BAR registry; it would just be a BAR registry.  Perhaps
>> > that clarification is a good reason to get the IANA registry included
>> in the next update?
>>
>> There is no reason for an individual BIER OSPF and BIER ISIS registry.
>> The point is to align with what ever ISIS and OSPF are using to identify
>> the algorithm.
>>
>> > The routing layer is separate from the BIER layer.  The BAR is for the
>> BIER layer.
>>
>> The underlay is separate from the BIER layer, and each underlay can carry
>> BIER specific information that is needed for for BIER to make the selection.
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Ice.
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ice,<div><br></div><div>I forgot to add - of course - that=
 I understand you have already stated that you don&#39;t have any technical=
 objections to the current status.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><=
div>Alia</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Alia Atlas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<=
/span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ice,<div><=
br></div><div>At this point in the process, it would be necessary to make a=
n overwhelming technical argument - that would sway almost the whole</div><=
div>WG to your perspective.</div><div><br></div><div>I see you saying that =
you have a personal preference for having the IGP Algorithm registry also b=
e used for the BAR registry.=C2=A0 =C2=A0While</div><div>I do, of course, r=
espect where you have technical expertise, my response - particularly from =
a process perspective - is &quot;that&#39;s nice&quot;.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Regards,</div><div>Alia</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=
=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, F=
eb 19, 2018 at 8:15 PM, IJsbrand Wijnands <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Alia,<br>
<span><br>
&gt; An architectural argument can&#39;t also limit itself to the drafts in=
 the title.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If it sounded like the IANA registry was suggested as separate for BIE=
R OSPF=C2=A0 and BIER ISIS, then your attempt to reframe the conversation m=
ight be reasonable.=C2=A0 Let me clarify - I see no current reason for an O=
SPF BAR registry and an ISIS BAR registry; it would just be a BAR registry.=
=C2=A0 Perhaps<br>
&gt; that clarification is a good reason to get the IANA registry included =
in the next update?<br>
<br>
</span>There is no reason for an individual BIER OSPF and BIER ISIS registr=
y. The point is to align with what ever ISIS and OSPF are using to identify=
 the algorithm.<br>
<span><br>
&gt; The routing layer is separate from the BIER layer.=C2=A0 The BAR is fo=
r the BIER layer.<br>
<br>
</span>The underlay is separate from the BIER layer, and each underlay can =
carry BIER specific information that is needed for for BIER to make the sel=
ection.<br>
<br>
Thx,<br>
<br>
Ice.<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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