Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-krb-wg-des-die-die-die-02.txt

Simo Sorce <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.krb-wg
Organization Red Hat, Inc.
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 18:12 -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Tom" == Tom Yu <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>     Tom> Simo Sorce <[email protected]> writes:
>     >> I am for narrowing the scope to DES and getting this standard out
>     >> ASAP.  It has been bounced enough, and adding more discussion to
>     >> deprecate other algorithms would only delay it, further.
>     >> 
>     >> Meanwhile DES is really insecure these days and we ought to
>     >> deprecate it officially so that all vendors wake up and start
>     >> moving off of it for real.
> 
> 
> As a process point, I believe that once we conclude our discussion here
> about what if anything to say about RC4, we will not be slowed down
> regardless of whether we include RC4.  I think that coming to consensus
> to remove RC4 references is likely as difficult as coming to consensus
> to keep it.
> 
> 
> So, my opinion as someone familiar with IETF process is that we should
> do what is right: it will take about the same time either way.

In this case I agree deprecating RC4-HMAC-EXP, but not RC4-HMAC as I am
involved in quite a few projects that needs to keep to interop with
older Windows clients that understand only RC4.

Simo.

-- 
Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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