Re: [kitten] Kitten and Kerberos WG Merger - New Charter

Howard Chu <[email protected]> Sun, 06 Jan 2013 04:07:08 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.krb-wg,gmane.ietf.kitten
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Leif Johansson wrote:
>
>
> 4 jan 2013 kl. 20:04 skrev Jeffrey Hutzelman <[email protected]>:
>
>> On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 12:18 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>
>>>> This charter subsumes the Kerberos WG under the auspices of the kitten WG.
>>>> Therefore the following charter text contains both kitten and Kerberos WG items.
>>>
>>> I suggest to remove this paragraph.  I don't see significant value in
>>> having that in the WG charter, and it seems confusing for anyone not
>>> familiar with the history.
>>
>> That was actually put in as a way of recording the history and giving
>> people not familiar with it a way to find older Kerberos-related work.
>> However, it was not the topic of a lot of wordsmithing, and I don't
>> think anyone who contributed to this proposal is wedded to that
>> language.  So, if someone wants to propose alternate text...
>>
>>
>>>> KDC Model (draft-ietf-krb-wg-kdc-model)
>>>
>>> Long overdue.  I have always preferred that this document shipped
>>> together with an instanciation of it, such as an LDAP schema.  I based
>>> my KDC backend database on an earlier version of this draft, but the
>>> document has changed since then.  Without implementations it is
>>> difficult to know whether there are flaws in the abstract model.
>>
>> It's certainly not going to ship "together with" a schema.  While I've
>> heard various people speak in favor of having an LDAP schema over the
>> years, including at the last krb-wg rechartering, there doesn't seem to
>> be enough interest in actually working on it for anything to happen.
>> The model document is nearly done (in the hands of the IESG, except for
>> revisions Leif recently posted to the list on which there have _still_
>> been no comments).  It's not going to sit around and wait for additional
>> work that may never happen.

Excuse me? Work that may never happen?
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chu-ldap-kdc-schema-00

This has been waiting around for 3 years waiting for the Model document to be 
finalized. Naturally the schema can't be finalized before the Model.
>
> Agreed

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