Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Kitten and Kerberos WG Merger - New Charter

Howard Chu <[email protected]> wrote:

>Leif Johansson wrote:
>>
>>
>> 4 jan 2013 kl. 20:04 skrev Jeffrey Hutzelman <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 12:18 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>> This charter subsumes the Kerberos WG under the auspices of the
>kitten WG.
>>>>> Therefore the following charter text contains both kitten and
>Kerberos WG items.
>>>>
>>>> I suggest to remove this paragraph.  I don't see significant value
>in
>>>> having that in the WG charter, and it seems confusing for anyone
>not
>>>> familiar with the history.
>>>
>>> That was actually put in as a way of recording the history and
>giving
>>> people not familiar with it a way to find older Kerberos-related
>work.
>>> However, it was not the topic of a lot of wordsmithing, and I don't
>>> think anyone who contributed to this proposal is wedded to that
>>> language.  So, if someone wants to propose alternate text...
>>>
>>>
>>>>> KDC Model (draft-ietf-krb-wg-kdc-model)
>>>>
>>>> Long overdue.  I have always preferred that this document shipped
>>>> together with an instanciation of it, such as an LDAP schema.  I
>based
>>>> my KDC backend database on an earlier version of this draft, but
>the
>>>> document has changed since then.  Without implementations it is
>>>> difficult to know whether there are flaws in the abstract model.
>>>
>>> It's certainly not going to ship "together with" a schema.  While
>I've
>>> heard various people speak in favor of having an LDAP schema over
>the
>>> years, including at the last krb-wg rechartering, there doesn't seem
>to
>>> be enough interest in actually working on it for anything to happen.
>>> The model document is nearly done (in the hands of the IESG, except
>for
>>> revisions Leif recently posted to the list on which there have
>_still_
>>> been no comments).  It's not going to sit around and wait for
>additional
>>> work that may never happen.
>
>Excuse me? Work that may never happen?
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chu-ldap-kdc-schema-00
>
>This has been waiting around for 3 years waiting for the Model document
>to be 
>finalized. Naturally the schema can't be finalized before the Model.
>>
>> Agreed

Wow; I totally forgot about that.  Sorry.