Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Kitten and Kerberos WG Merger - New Charter

Leif Johansson <[email protected]> Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:37:38 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.kitten,gmane.ietf.krb-wg
Message-ID <77A2CF29-30AF-4487-93D1-136641EDBBB2__6129.23024823448$1357504690$gmane$org@mnt.se>

6 jan 2013 kl. 13:07 skrev Howard Chu <[email protected]>:

> Leif Johansson wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 4 jan 2013 kl. 20:04 skrev Jeffrey Hutzelman <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 12:18 +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> This charter subsumes the Kerberos WG under the auspices of the kitten WG.
>>>>> Therefore the following charter text contains both kitten and Kerberos WG items.
>>>> 
>>>> I suggest to remove this paragraph.  I don't see significant value in
>>>> having that in the WG charter, and it seems confusing for anyone not
>>>> familiar with the history.
>>> 
>>> That was actually put in as a way of recording the history and giving
>>> people not familiar with it a way to find older Kerberos-related work.
>>> However, it was not the topic of a lot of wordsmithing, and I don't
>>> think anyone who contributed to this proposal is wedded to that
>>> language.  So, if someone wants to propose alternate text...
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> KDC Model (draft-ietf-krb-wg-kdc-model)
>>>> 
>>>> Long overdue.  I have always preferred that this document shipped
>>>> together with an instanciation of it, such as an LDAP schema.  I based
>>>> my KDC backend database on an earlier version of this draft, but the
>>>> document has changed since then.  Without implementations it is
>>>> difficult to know whether there are flaws in the abstract model.
>>> 
>>> It's certainly not going to ship "together with" a schema.  While I've
>>> heard various people speak in favor of having an LDAP schema over the
>>> years, including at the last krb-wg rechartering, there doesn't seem to
>>> be enough interest in actually working on it for anything to happen.
>>> The model document is nearly done (in the hands of the IESG, except for
>>> revisions Leif recently posted to the list on which there have _still_
>>> been no comments).  It's not going to sit around and wait for additional
>>> work that may never happen.
> 
> Excuse me? Work that may never happen?
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chu-ldap-kdc-schema-00
> 
> This has been waiting around for 3 years waiting for the Model document to be finalized. Naturally the schema can't be finalized before the Model.
>> 


Forgot about that one, nice!


>> Agreed
> 
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