Updates to L2TP v2 & v3 for ECN: draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02

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Ignacio, Carlos, l2tpext list,

I have posted a rev of this draft with the new arrangement for minimally 
updating L2TP v2 & v3 to ensure legacy implementations are configured 
safely. The spec to support ECN properly is now within this draft itself 
as a RECOMMENDED L2TP extension, but it does not update any L2TP specs.

Pls review and comment.

This is planned to be last-called in tsvwg, deadline Sep 2017.
There is talk of also WGLC'ing in opsawg and int-area I think.

If you think the L2TP aspects should also be WGLC'd elsewhere in 
parallel, pls say where.
If you think I should give a heads-up presentation in Prague, also pls 
say where.

Cheers



Bob


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David, as doc shepherd.

I have just posted a major revision to draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim

Please also take this as a request to give a 10min presentation in tsvwg.

As requested, I included specific text necessary to update certain shim 
tunnel protocols that didn't mention ECN at all (L2TPv2, L2TPv3, GRE).
There are two others to do:
* Teredo: I'll do this once I hear from the original author, Christian 
Huitema
* VXLAN-GPE: This is a draft currently going through NVO3 on the 
standards track. AFAIK the Linux implementation already supports ECN via 
RFC6040, but the authors will need to add ECN text to the spec, so there 
is something for other implementations to follow. I have contacted them 
- they should do this, not me.

I have also added more protocols to the list (e.g. CAPWAP, LISP), but 
these already supported ECN.

As you have seen, I have been in conversation with people on the l2tpext 
list, and on opsawg (for CAPWAP). I haven't found anyone specific to 
talk to regarding GRE yet, but I have notified int-area and I gave a 
heads-up at a recent IETF.


BTW, your plan was to last call draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim 
along with ecn-encap-guidelines, deadline Sep 2017.
I should point out that draft-ietf-trill-ecn-support is in WGLC in 
trill, and it depends normatively on ecn-encap-guidelines

opsawg would like to last call draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim as 
well (altho I have now realized that no update to CAPWAP is needed, but 
opsawg is now working on alternative tunnelling protocols to CAPWAP: 
draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel ). I guess int-area might want to 
last call draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim too.



Bob


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A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02.txt
has been successfully submitted by Bob Briscoe and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:		draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim
Revision:	02
Title:		Propagating Explicit Congestion Notification Across IP Tunnel Headers Separated by a Shim
Document date:	2017-06-16
Group:		tsvwg
Pages:		15
URL:https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02.txt
Status:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim/
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Htmlized:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02
Diff:https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02

Abstract:
    RFC 6040 on "Tunnelling of Explicit Congestion Notification" made the
    rules for propagation of ECN consistent for all forms of IP in IP
    tunnel.  This specification extends the scope of RFC 6040 to include
    tunnels where two IP headers are separated by at least one shim
    header that is not sufficient on its own for packet forwarding.  It
    surveys widely deployed IP tunnelling protocols separated by a shim
    and updates the specifications of those that do not mention ECN
    propagation (L2TPv2, L2TPv3, GRE and Teredo).  The specification also
    updates RFC 6040 with configuration requirements needed to make any
    legacy tunnel ingress safe.

                                                                                   


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    Ignacio, Carlos, l2tpext list,<br>
    <br>
    I have posted a rev of this draft with the new arrangement for
    minimally updating L2TP v2 &amp; v3 to ensure legacy implementations
    are configured safely. The spec to support ECN properly is now
    within this draft itself as a RECOMMENDED L2TP extension, but it
    does not update any L2TP specs.<br>
    <br>
    Pls review and comment.<br>
    <br>
    This is planned to be last-called in tsvwg, deadline Sep 2017.<br>
    There is talk of also WGLC'ing in opsawg and int-area I think.<br>
    <br>
    If you think the L2TP aspects should also be WGLC'd elsewhere in
    parallel, pls say where.<br>
    If you think I should give a heads-up presentation in Prague, also
    pls say where.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
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      David, as doc shepherd.<br>
      <br>
      I have just posted a major revision to
      draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim<br>
      <br>
      Please also take this as a request to give a 10min presentation in
      tsvwg.<br>
      <br>
      As requested, I included specific text necessary to update certain
      shim tunnel protocols that didn't mention ECN at all (L2TPv2,
      L2TPv3, GRE).<br>
      There are two others to do: <br>
      * Teredo: I'll do this once I hear from the original author,
      Christian Huitema<br>
      * VXLAN-GPE: This is a draft currently going through NVO3 on the
      standards track. AFAIK the Linux implementation already supports
      ECN via RFC6040, but the authors will need to add ECN text to the
      spec, so there is something for other implementations to follow. I
      have contacted them - they should do this, not me.<br>
      <br>
      I have also added more protocols to the list (e.g. CAPWAP, LISP),
      but these already supported ECN.<br>
      <br>
      As you have seen, I have been in conversation with people on the
      l2tpext list, and on opsawg (for CAPWAP). I haven't found anyone
      specific to talk to regarding GRE yet, but I have notified
      int-area and I gave a heads-up at a recent IETF.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      BTW, your plan was to last call
      draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim along with
      ecn-encap-guidelines, deadline Sep 2017.<br>
      I should point out that draft-ietf-trill-ecn-support is in WGLC in
      trill, and it depends normatively on ecn-encap-guidelines<br>
      <br>
      opsawg would like to last call draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim
      as well (altho I have now realized that no update to CAPWAP is
      needed, but opsawg is now working on alternative tunnelling
      protocols to CAPWAP: draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel ). I
      guess int-area might want to last call
      draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim too. <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Bob<br>
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        <pre>A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02.txt
has been successfully submitted by Bob Briscoe and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:		draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim
Revision:	02
Title:		Propagating Explicit Congestion Notification Across IP Tunnel Headers Separated by a Shim
Document date:	2017-06-16
Group:		tsvwg
Pages:		15
URL:            <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02.txt" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-02.txt</a>
Status:         <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim/</a>
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Abstract:
   RFC 6040 on "Tunnelling of Explicit Congestion Notification" made the
   rules for propagation of ECN consistent for all forms of IP in IP
   tunnel.  This specification extends the scope of RFC 6040 to include
   tunnels where two IP headers are separated by at least one shim
   header that is not sufficient on its own for packet forwarding.  It
   surveys widely deployed IP tunnelling protocols separated by a shim
   and updates the specifications of those that do not mention ECN
   propagation (L2TPv2, L2TPv3, GRE and Teredo).  The specification also
   updates RFC 6040 with configuration requirements needed to make any
   legacy tunnel ingress safe.

                                                                                  


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