Re: RtgDir review : draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator

"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <[email protected]> Sun, 3 Jan 2016 12:59:51 +0000
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Thanks Manav for this second RTG-Dir review (the first one from Dec 18th =
by Loa)

Please see inline. The upcoming rev will address all your minor =
concerns.

> On Dec 31, 2015, at 7:55 AM, Manav Bhatia <[email protected]> =
wrote:
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> Hello,
>=20
> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this =
draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or =
routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG =
review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is =
to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the =
Routing Directorate, please see  =
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir =
<http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir>
>=20
> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, =
it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF =
Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through =
discussion or by updating the draft.
>=20
> Document: draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-01.txt
> Reviewer: Manav Bhatia
> Review Date: 2015-12-31
> IETF LC End Date: date-if-known
> Intended Status: Proposed Standard (ID says Standards track)
>=20
> Summary:
>=20
> I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be =
resolved before publication.
>=20
> Comments:
>=20
> I have issues in general readability of the draft. There were parts =
that were not very clear but that could also be because i am not very =
conversant with L2TP.
>=20
> Major Issues:
>=20
> 1. The document describes how one or more than one S-BFD descriminator =
can be advertised using L2TPv3 AVP. The draft when originally written =
was inline with the popular idea then, that a node MAY want to advertise =
more than one S-BFD descriminator. This idea however, is losing currency =
since the reason that necessitated this capability is now being =
questioned. Given this, the authors might need to rewrite sections of =
this draft, if the consensus is to remove the notion of advertising =
multiple discriminators.

Consensus on this item seems to be that the advertisement vehicles =
(OSPF, ISIS, L2TP) should allow for multiple discriminators, while the =
sbfd spec can constrain this to one.

Based on this, there is no change needed on this doc on this point =
(other than editorials as also pointed out by Loa).

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> Minor Issues:
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> 1. Most of the acroynms have not been expanded and referenced.
>=20

Ack =E2=80=94 fixed.

> 2. The figure in the draft is not clear. I dont even want to guess how =
that needs to be interpreted.
>=20

No need to guess, it=E2=80=99s the same as with the ISIS draft (and a =
format which is quite common actually).

Nonetheless, I added an additional figure to completely disambiguate =
potential problems or misinterpretations. I hope the new figure is =
clear.

> Cheers, Manav

Thanks again, Manav!

=E2=80=94 Carlos.


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Thanks Manav for this second RTG-Dir review (the first one =
from Dec 18th by Loa)<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Please see inline. The upcoming rev will address all your =
minor concerns.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 31, 2015, at 7:55 AM, =
Manav Bhatia &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Hello,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for =
this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or =
routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG =
review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is =
to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the =
Routing Directorate, please see &nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir" =
class=3D"">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir</a><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Although these comments are primarily for the =
use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them =
along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and =
strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Document: =
draft-ietf-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator-01.txt<br class=3D"">Reviewer: =
Manav Bhatia<br class=3D"">Review Date: 2015-12-31<br class=3D"">IETF LC =
End Date: date-if-known<br class=3D"">Intended Status: Proposed Standard =
(ID says Standards track)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Summary:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">I have some minor concerns about this document =
that I think should be resolved before publication.<br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Comments:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I have issues in general =
readability of the draft. There were parts that were not very clear but =
that could also be because i am not very conversant with =
L2TP.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Major Issues:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">1. The document describes how one or more =
than one S-BFD descriminator can be advertised using L2TPv3 AVP. The =
draft when originally written was inline with the popular idea then, =
that a node MAY want to advertise more than one S-BFD descriminator. =
This idea however, is losing currency since the reason that necessitated =
this capability is now being questioned. Given this, the authors might =
need to rewrite sections of this draft, if the consensus is to remove =
the notion of advertising multiple =
discriminators.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Consensus on this item seems to be that the =
advertisement vehicles (OSPF, ISIS, L2TP) should allow for multiple =
discriminators, while the sbfd spec can constrain this to =
one.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Based on this, there is no =
change needed on this doc on this point (other than editorials as also =
pointed out by Loa).</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Minor =
Issues:<br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">1. Most of the acroynms =
have not been expanded and referenced.</div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Ack =E2=80=94 fixed.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div=
 class=3D"">2. The figure in the draft is not clear. I dont even want to =
guess how that needs to be interpreted.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>No need to guess, it=E2=80=99s the same as with =
the ISIS draft (and a format which is quite common =
actually).</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Nonetheless, I added an =
additional figure to completely disambiguate potential problems or =
misinterpretations. I hope the new figure is clear.</div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Cheers, Manav</div></div>
</div></blockquote><br class=3D""></div><div>Thanks again, =
Manav!</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>=E2=80=94 Carlos.</div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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