Re: Registration request for subtag -urban

Michael Everson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.languages
Message-ID <[email protected]>
This won’t fly. It’s not even as well-defined as Spanglish. It’s a codified learner-dialect, which ok, gets you pidgin, but pidgin isn’t stable and codifiable until it becomes creole, and then it doesn’t become taggable till it gets a literature, written or oral. 

That’s my decision. And I did read the entire proposal reference by Wiese. It’s fascinating stuff. It’s not for this registry.

Michael Everson

PS. Translate a 27,000 word novel like Alice into it, and then it would be real enough to consider codified. That’s one of my litmus tests: a reason to tae the data seriously. I’m not sure Boontling would pass that one, though I think it might still pass some others. 


> On 18 Apr 2017, at 13:40, Christoph Päper <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
> 
> 1. Name of requester: Christoph Päper
> 2. E-mail address of requester:  [email protected]
> 3. Record Requested:
> 
>   Type: variant
>   Subtag: urban
>   Prefix: de
>   Description: Kiezdeutsch
>   Description: Kanaksprak
>   Prefix: en
>   Description: Urbanese
>   Comments: Applicable to many major languages.
> 
> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: Urban sociolect, mostly spoken among younger
> demographics and migrant groups; not bound to a single geographical region,
> written almost exclusively in informal discourse and usually in the Latin
> script.
> 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): Heike
> Wiese (2012): Kiezdeutsch.
> http://www.bpb.de/apuz/32957/kiezdeutsch-ein-neuer-dialekt
> 6. Any other relevant information: 
> 
> ----
> 
> Since the proposed subtag may be useful for many languages besides German and
> English, it would be okay for me to drop the Prefix and Description fields:
> 
> ----
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
> 
> 1. Name of requester: Christoph Päper
> 2. E-mail address of requester:  [email protected]
> 3. Record Requested:
> 
>   Type: variant
>   Subtag: urban
>   Comments: Applicable to many major languages.
> 
> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag: Urban sociolect, mostly spoken among younger
> demographics and migrant groups; not bound to a single geographical region,
> written almost exclusively in informal discourse.
> 5. Reference to published description of the language (book or article): 
> 6. Any other relevant information:
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Ietf-languages mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages

_______________________________________________
Ietf-languages mailing list
[email protected]
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.