Re: Macrolanguage (was: Forms for Montenegrin)

John Cowan <[email protected]>
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Michael Everson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 22 Dec 2017, at 20:27, Doug Ewell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "Macrolanguage" is completely an ISO 639-3 concept.
>
> The term is odd, but it’s a familiar concept in linguistic classification.
>

It isn't, which is why Peter Constable (who is certainly familiar with
linguistic classification) invented it.


> You imply that Montenegrin’s would either have no macrolanguage (but it is
> not a linguistic isolate) or that its macrolanguage would be anything other
> than Serbo-Croatian. But neither of those would be correct.
>

English does not have a macrolanguage, but it is not a language isolate.
Rather, it does not belong to a group of languages (as defined by
linguistic standards) which are for some purposes treated as a single
language with a single name, as is the case for Chinese, Arabic, Norwegian,
Quechua, and Serbo-Croatian.  If on the other hand it were usual to call
both English and various English-based pidgins and creoles simply
"English", and only differentiate between them in specialized contexts,
then English would indeed be part of a macrolanguage called "English
(macrolanguage)".

-- 
John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        [email protected]
An observable characteristic is not necessarily a functional requirement.
        --John Hudson

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