Re: Armenian (was: Re: ISO 639-3 changes, part 3)

Arthur Reutenauer <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.languages
Message-ID <[email protected]>
>>> hy.wikipedia.org has hitherto been used for both, but those articles written in Western have been explicitly marked and will ALL be moved to the new hyw.wikipedia.org
>> 
>>  Good for them.  I really mean it.
> 
> Yes, it’s very good for them.

  Sorry, I should have added the relevant bit: not every project will
be ready for retagging.  We have to assume that existing content in
Western Armenian will continue to be tagged as [hy] indefinitely.

>>> I expect the same would hold true for other applications, whether bibliographical or terminological or in software like localizations or CLDR.
>> 
>>  You can’t just make that determination on behalf of other people.
> 
> Evidently I am supposed to. But as I have neither crystal ball nor telepathy any determination I make will be on behalf of… someone.

  You’re not just making a decision, you are tying it to an assumption
that something will happen to use the new code element in all the
projects that need it.  I don’t see that happening, and even if we could
be sure it would, I don’t think it would justify deprecating -arevela.

>> Sorry, that’s too cavalier an approach.  
> 
> Please explain. 

  See above: it’s not appropriate to justify a change in meaning of an
existing subtag by the fact that content will be retagged in a specific
project, especially if that’s the project that’s on your radar.  We have
established that content exists in Western Armenian that is tagged as
[hy]; it is a legitimate use: the subtag clearly is related, it is not
for a completely different language, or private use, or a made-up
unassigned one.  Deprecating -arevela would leave a vacuum for people
wanting to explicitly tag Eastern Armenian.

>> However, you clearly don’t
>> think I’m being helpful at this point, so I’ll leave it at that.

  Well, that’s the feeling I was getting.

	Best,

		Arthur

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