Re: Click letters in ISO 639-3 and Registry (long)

Arthur Reutenauer <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:45:33 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.languages
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 06:59:06PM -0700, Doug Ewell wrote:
> Michael Everson wrote:
> 
>> Those two are ejectives, so the should use 02BC.
> 
> and Arthur Reutenauer replied:
> 
>> Actually, according to Wikipedia, the apostrophe-like character
> >indicates glottalisation after a click, and ejectiveness (is that a
> >word?) after other consonants, but I agree, the character definitely
> >is U+02BC in all cases.
> 
> Mark and others, do you agree? Can we recommend spellings to 639-3/RA for
> these two languages using this character? Remember we are NOT trying to
> solve the apostrophe problem for all language names, let alone for running
> text in these languages and others (such as Polynesian languages).
> 
> What about the click characters in my original post of February 27? ( ǀ ǁ ǂ
> ǃ ) Can we agree on the names using these characters as I posted?

  I agree to all the names you’ve suggested in that email, and to not
use ASCII fallbacks in the registry.

> What about ASCII fallbacks? We will need to give the RA something to put in
> their Latin-1–restricted files. They are currently using ( | || ! ) which
> seem OK, and ( ‡ ) which is awful and not even Latin-1. Can we recommend
> that they use ( | || |= ! ) plus U+0027 for the glottal-ejective-whatever
> apostrophe?

  Actually, they’re only using ‡ once in the UTF-8 file, in ASCII it’s =/
which to be consistent we could recommend replacing by =| instead.  I
agree with all the rest.

	Best,

		Arthur

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