Re: A code for standard Zhuang

No, I'm not proposing a new subtag. Wikipedia currently implies there is a
problem, by giving the ISO 639-3 tag of mis to Standard Zhuang, so I was
trying to assertain if there was, in which case it would still probably be
a SIL issue before possibly coming back here.

(To clarify as to the outsider thing, I was speaking of Zhuang, not this
list, a status which is unlikely to change.)

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 11:34 AM Doug Ewell <[email protected]> wrote:

> To be clear, this thread isn't proposing any new subtags for the Registry,
> correct?
>
> We have a lot of outstanding requests still waiting for decisions
> (Occitan, Kirshenbaum, Tibetan) and I wasn't sure whether this was
> preliminary to another one.
>
>
>
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>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: John Cowan <[email protected]>
> Date: 3/31/18 20:21 (GMT-07:00)
> To: David Starner <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] A code for standard Zhuang
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:54 PM, David Starner <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> There seems to be some interest in Zhuang Wikimedia projects*; looking at
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuang_languages and
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Zhuang , it seems that Standard
>> Zhuang has no special tag. Presumably, it shouldn't be tagged za, because
>> that's for the language group (which is apparently not a linguistically
>> valid group); should it be tagged zyb, since it's based on the Youngbei
>> (zyb) dialect/language, or should SIL be petitioned for a new tag for
>> Standard Zhuang?
>>
>
> I added this comment at <
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#handling_languages_with_multiple_scripts
> >:
>
> I agree that 'zyb' is the right tag for Standard/Yongbei Zhuang.  The tag
> 'zh' is a macrolanguage tag, representing a cover term for all the Zhuang
> languages, which are no more closely related than the Sinitic or the
> Romance languages.  The Wuming variety of Yongbei was chosen not because it
> is historically more prominent (as in the case of the French of Paris
> becoming Standard French) but because it makes the most phonemic
> distinctions, or was believed to do so at the time of standardization.  As
> for the script, there are probably more people literate in Latin script
> than in Sawndip (Han) script, so the former should most likely be adopted.
>
>
>> I admit I'm an outsider here
>>
>
> There are truly no outsiders here, only people who have not yet chosen to
> become insiders.  Welcome!
>
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