Re: Swaziland becomes Eswatini

The rule is weaker than you might remember:

(Section 3.1.5) For fields of type 'language', the first 'Description' field
   appearing in the registry corresponds whenever possible to the
   Reference Name assigned by ISO 639-3.  This helps facilitate cross-
   referencing between ISO 639 and the registry.

The rules surrounding descriptions are meant to mirror the source standards as much as possible, while still allowing a fair bit of freedom in registering appropriate variations and steering clear of redundancy or collision. So, for example, the quote above says "corresponds" rather than "MUST be identical to"...

I do think it's a good idea to make the first description(s) match the source standards in cases where additional descriptions have been provided or registered.

Addison

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ietf-languages [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Doug Ewell
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:47 AM
> To: ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <[email protected]>; Michael
> Everson <[email protected]>; Arthur Reutenauer
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Swaziland becomes Eswatini
> 
> IIRC, RFC 5646 has that rule for language subtags and ISO 639, not necessarily
> for region and script subtags and their respective ISO source standards. I
> personally think it's a good idea.
> 
> Citing the UCS default sort order really, really seems like an attempt to make
> "eSwatini" the primary Description field. We have not cared about the UCS
> default sort order anywhere else in the Registry.
> 
> I guess I will stop arguing over this, as long as "Eswatini" is in there someplace.
> 
> --
> Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Ietf-languages] Swaziland becomes Eswatini
> From: Arthur Reutenauer <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, July 19, 2018 9:16 am
> To: Michael Everson <[email protected]>
> Cc: ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <[email protected]>
> 
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:57:45PM +0100, Michael Everson wrote:
> > Perhaps you should use this.
> >
> > Type: region
> > Subtag: SZ
> > Description: eSwatini
> > Description: Eswatini
> > Description: Swaziland
> > Added: 2005-10-16
> >
> > This is sorted in alphabetical order where the UCS default sort gives lowercase
> before uppercase.
> 
> Don’t we have a rule that requires the name coming from the source standard to
> be first in the list of decriptions?
> 
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