Re: Language Subtag Registration

Nicholas Felker <[email protected]> Wed, 29 Aug 2018 21:07:38 -0500
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There are several syntactic differences:

For example, "with" and an implicit target, ie. "Do you want to come with?"

There is the positive use of anymore, ie. "Cars are so expensive anymore",
which is distinct as anymore is typically used with a negative connotation.

There is the unusual usage of "done" which has distinctive usages.

It may mean you actually haven't finished it but are not interested in it
anymore. For example, saying "I'm done with the water" may not mean that
the water is completely consumed, but you no longer are thirsty.

It can also be used by omitting an article to imply the task or event is
completed. For example, "I'm call you when I'm done work" may read a bit
odd, but is used when the activity is finished.

Also, the local word "jawn" does not have a specific definition, but can be
used in a replacement for many nouns in a sentence when the meaning is
implicit. For example, if we were at a barbecue, one may say "Put some
cheese on that jawn" or "I'm thirsty. Do you have any cold jawns?" In this
sense it stands out as it's not a simple word replacement but a unique word
that that does not have a more generalized equivalent.

-Nick

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:44 AM Doug Ewell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gordon P. Hemsley wrote:
>
> > The registration makes the claim that Philadelphia English is "not a
> > simple accent or set of colloquialisms", but then provides evidence
> > that suggests just the opposite. No source has been provided that
> > supports the notion that Philadelphia English is any more than a
> > distinctive collection of phonological patterns and lexicon,
>
> Nick, can you provide references that show that Philadelphia English is
> more than an accent and a regional vocabulary? For example, are there
> any grammatical or syntactical differences?
>
> As Gordon points out, differences in accent and regionalisms are
> prevalent throughout U.S. English, and aren't normally considered
> "taggable differences," such that a distinct language tag would serve a
> practical purpose in identification. This was the main reason I didn't
> propose Pittsburgh English after all.
>
> --
> Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
>
>

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