Re: Click letters in ISO 639-3 and Registry (long)
"Doug Ewell" <[email protected]> Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:59:00 -0700
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ISO 639-3 accepted our proposed changes, which we discussed at some length from February 27 to March 22 and ultimately agreed upon (see list archives), and the revised ISO 639-3 data files were published on July 31. I have begun to prepare registration forms to fix these in the Registry. "Fix" mainly means removing the ASCII-hack Description fields for the non-deprecated language subtags, and replacing the ASCII-hack Description fields in the deprecated ones with proper spellings. This includes replacing "=/Kx'au//'ein" with "ǂKxʼauǁʼein", as Mark mentioned. I have been unusually busy in the past few months and have not gotten around to posting these changes to the ietf-languages list. There are others, including two ISO 15924 additions and two new languages added to ISO 639-3, that also need to be posted. I apologize for these delays. I will post the forms this week; I'd hope that would mean "today" or "tomorrow" but we'll see. As you can see from the ǂKxʼauǁʼein example, some of the click changes also brought apostrophe changes with them. During the discussion of click letters, I suggested that it would be overwhelming and contentious to try to evaluate every one of the apostrophes and apostrophe-like characters in the Registry. There are 161 instances of U+0027, 1 instance of U+02BB, 4 instances of U+02BC, and 3 instances of U+2019 in the current Registry. I wanted to focus strictly on the language names that had click letters, and make any clear and well-agreed-upon changes to apostrophes in those names while we were at it, and not try to boil the entire apostrophe ocean with this effort. I still believe that is the best course, If someone wants to go through more than 160 apostrophe-like thingies and try to get consensus for what each of them should be, let's make that its own project. As I have said before, we are only concerned here with the names of languages, in isolation, not with arbitrary text in those (or other) languages surrounded by quotation marks or possessive apostrophes or the like. So while it may be important to know the proper way to typeset "Did he say 'I am learning Yanesha''?", it's not related to the current effort of making these changes to the Registry. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org _______________________________________________ Ietf-languages mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages