Re: Northern Thai Variants
Mark Davis ☕️ <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Jan 2019 12:07:27 +0100
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A few mechanics: 1. nod-Lana-etymo : The prefix values are only a recommendation, so there is nothing preventing any variant with any prefix. You can have fr-basiceng for example. In practice that is no problem, just as ja-Thai-AQ is not a problem. 2. nod-Lana-t-Thai : would be nod-Thai-t-nod-Lana (or nod-Thai-t-und-Lana), meaning nod in the Thai script that has been transformed from Lana. Mark On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:09 AM Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham= [email protected]> wrote: > I have been looking at localisation for northern Thai (language code > nod) and it seems to me that, simplifying, for any speech variety there > are three basic varieties of writing system: > > 1) Writing in the Tai Tham script (subtag Lana) > 2) Writing in the Thai script (subtag Thai) with consonants having > the same phonetic values as the corresponding Tai Tham consonants. > 3) Writing in the Thai script with stop consonants having > the same phonetic values as in Standard Thai. > > My idea for approaching this is to use the labels: > > nod-Lana > nod-Thai-etymo > nod-Thai-phonetic > > However, there are several issues with this approach. > > The first is whether nod-etymo and and nod-phonetic would then be > allowed as identifiers of Northern Thai Thai-script writing systems. > nod-Lana-etymo would not make sense, and I'm not sure how to word the > subtag record to exclude, or at least discourage, it. > > The second is the possibility that Scheme 2, but not Scheme 3, should > be treated as a transform of Scheme 1, and therefore scheme 2 should > be nod-Lana-t-Thai, which would remove the need for variants at this > level. My most cogent objection is that the transformation depends on > phonetic and etymological information - ambiguities in some > orthographies for Scheme 1 are removed in Scheme 2, and word-final > <SIGN OA BELOW, RA> is converted according to etymology, (generally) > with <O ANG, RO RUEA> in words of Pali/Sanskrit origin and <O ANG, NO > NU> in native words. > > Users of Northern Thai learn Standard Thai in school, and will > generally be more fluent in writing Standard Thai than in writing > Northen Thai. > > Can I please have advice. > > Richard. > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-languages mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages > _______________________________________________ Ietf-languages mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages