Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: language identifiers for sign languages (incl. sgn) vs. attribute for indicating the representation of an individual language in "sign language modality"
"Doug Ewell" <[email protected]> Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:33:09 -0700
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Peter Constable replied to Shawn Steele:
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>> Would there be a useful scenario to say =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99d like a =
signed version
>> of English, if you have one=E2=80=9D without specifying ASL (ase) =
explicitly?
> =EF=BF=BD
> Implicit in the wording of that question are two mis-conceptions:
> =EF=BF=BD
> - ASL is not a signed version of English, or in any sense a variant of
> English.
> - A signed-modality expression of English is still English and not ASL
> or any other signed language.=20
=EF=BF=BD
Indeed, I think these misconceptions probably cause more confusion over =
tagging sign languages, and more resistance to developing a solution for =
signed spoken languages, than anything else.
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Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Peter =
Constable replied to Shawn Steele:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>> =
Would there be a useful scenario to say =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99d like a =
signed version<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>> of English, =
if you have one=E2=80=9D without specifying ASL (ase) =
explicitly?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> =
Implicit in the wording of that question are two =
mis-conceptions:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> - =
ASL is not a signed version of English, or in any sense a variant =
of<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>>=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
English.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>> - A signed-modality =
expression of English is still English and not ASL<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>>=C2=A0=C2=A0 or any other signed language. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Indeed, I think these misconceptions probably cause =
more confusion over tagging sign languages, and more resistance to =
developing a solution for signed spoken languages, than anything =
else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white'>--<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:Consolas;color:black;background:white'>Doug Ewell | =
Thornton, CO, US | =
ewellic.org</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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