Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: language identifiers for sign languages (incl. sgn) vs. attribute for indicating the representation of an individual language in "sign language modality"

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On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 2:17 PM Doug Ewell <[email protected]> wrote:

English and Signed English (of any flavor), of course, are another matter.
>

I understand David to be saying that it doesn't matter if a signed video is
ASL or SEE: one is no more intelligible to English-speakers than the
other.  And I replied (in effect) that if your native language is Haitian
Creole and you're illiterate, it won't matter to you if a written document
is in Haitian Creole or Standard French.

David's .sig line:


> Kie ekzistas vivo, ekzistas espero.
>

I meant to mention before that that seems very artificial and impersonal to
me.  What's wrong with "Dum mi vivas, mi esperas", a straight translation
of "Dum spiro spero"?



John Cowan          http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan        [email protected]
Any day you [see] all five woodpeckers is a good day.  --Elliotte Rusty
Harold

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 that it doesn&#39;t matter if a signed video is ASL or SEE: one is no more=
 intelligible to English-speakers than the other.=C2=A0 And I replied (in e=
ffect) that if your native language is Haitian Creole and you&#39;re illite=
rate, it won&#39;t matter to you if a written document is in Haitian Creole=
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iv></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I meant to mention before that th=
at seems very artificial and impersonal to me.=C2=A0 What&#39;s wrong with =
&quot;Dum mi vivas, mi esperas&quot;, a straight translation of &quot;Dum s=
piro spero&quot;?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Jo=
hn Cowan =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://vrici.lojban.o=
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 five woodpeckers is a good day. =C2=A0--Elliotte Rusty Harold<br></div></d=
iv></div>

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