NIS, RFC2307, RFC2307bis, DBIS, whatever...

Michael Ströder <[email protected]> Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:29:42 +0100
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HI!

This is a purely organizational posting.

*** Please do not follow-up on technical details in this thread!!! ***

Reviewing the recent RFC2307bis/DBIS e-mail thread I think long texts dis=
cussing
various topics at once is a real obstacle to get people involved.

I also strongly feel that trying to solve all problems at once with one b=
ig
solution will make it really hard to reach some sort of consensus on part=
icular
work items.  Rather people should be able to pick certain aspects to solv=
e part
of the problem in their particular deployment.

I'd vote for dividing the NIS/LDAP topic into several sub-topics already =
raised
and start separate mail threads:

1. Case-sensitive vs. case-insensitive names
further divided into:
- Scope: POSIX vs. rest-of-world
- User/login names
- Group names
- Service names

2. posixAccount vs. posixUserAccount (DBIS) vs. whatever
- current common posixAccount usage (structural object class etc.)
- gecos field: displayName vs. configurable mapping etc.
- IANA considerations

3. Groups
- current groupOfNames/posixGroup practice
- empty groups (groupOfEntries)
- attribute memberUID vs. member vs. whatever
- IANA considerations

4. Host/service groups
- NIS netgroups vs. groupOfNames vs. other host groups schema
- which approaches are really used?

5. Client configuration profiles:
- RFC 4876 usage
- DBIS

Feel free to extend this.

Next steps:

1. I'd be very thankful if people could step up picking *one* sub-topic a=
nd
start a separate discussion thread ideally first summarizing which approa=
ches
for this particular sub-topic were considered in the past or lying on the=
 table
as I-D.  Please stay neutral and do not start such a sub-thread endorsing=
 a
particular solution.

2. The goal for each discussion thread should be to work out a set of rea=
l
hard requirements or to agree that there is no consensus on the requireme=
nts.

3. After that hopefully we can agree which work items are put into the ch=
arter.

I'm quite aware that some of the topics above overlap.  But please let's =
try to
be disciplined and get more structure into the discussion.  Otherwise I d=
on't
see a chance to get work done.

Ciao, Michael.



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