Re: empty-groupOfNames-issue

Michael Ströder <[email protected]> Fri, 4 Dec 2015 17:47:04 +0100
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Simo Sorce wrote:
> I do not agree with this conclusion.
> Realxing the constraint from MUST to MAY is forward compatible, and
> older tools can keep doing what they always did.
>=20
> Given there is no provision in the old or new groupOfNames to have
> members that "make sense", software always need to be prepared to deal
> with bogus members, so p) is not a "problem to solve".
>=20
> You may have a point with q) if you want to deal with a generic
> management system, but then your proposal to create a new objectlcass
> adds exactly the same problem, as the management system need to know
> what to use, except it makes it worse in 2 ways:
> 1) you have no way to find out what to do just by inspecting the schema=

> because both classes may be in the schema, which do you choose ?
> 2) you have to change all client applications that are hardcoded to use=

> groupOfNames
>=20
> Looking at 1) and 2) then q) is a comparatively little price to pay.
>=20
>> On the other hand, the corrupt version of groupOfNames does serve as
>> a proof that groupOfEntries is desired by the community because it is
>> functionally identical.
>=20
> Yet it is not identical, see 2) above.

I concur with Simo: The issues are almost non-issues because applications=

already have to deal with the non-standard variants today.

Also in practice I see much less client applications capable to properly =
add
dummy 'member' values, and if they do you have to explicitly configure it=
 anyway.

The only soft issue is that changing 'groupOfNames', after careful
considerations of course, could be abused as an example to request more
quick&dirty changes in standardized schema (probably without careful
considerations).

Ciao, Michael.



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