[manet] Re: MANET WG Charter and MANET Internetworking

Hi,

Thanks for all this discussion. I think we are making progress. He is
some possible updated wording I have come up with:

"MANET routing protocols discover multi-hop IP forwarding paths within
a bounded networking region. Such regions need to be able to operate
autonomously when isolated and to provide Internet access when they
are connected to the Internet including access to nodes in other MANET
regions also connected to the Internet. Nodes in such MANET regions
may have multiple interfaces that need to be configured. It may be
desirable for larger MANET regions to be able to dynamically organize
themselves into smaller clusters. The working group will analyze
existing standard protocols and established practices to identify gaps
in providing these services."

(I was traveling Thursday and am staying at a relative's house through
early next week where there is no Wi-Fi Internet access and spotty
cell service. So I may not be able to respond quickly. I'm typing this
on a restaurant Wi-Fi service...)

Thanks,
Donald
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On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 4:02 PM Templin (US), Fred L
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2025 11:56 AM
> > To: Juliusz Chroboczek <[email protected]>
> > Cc: manet <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> > Subject: [manet] Re: MANET WG Charter and MANET Internetworking
> >
> > RFC2501 is still the primary reference for IETF MANET.
> >
> > The inspiration for IETF MANET came from 1990s-era programs including US DoD Task Force XXI (google: "DoD Task Force XXI") and DARPA
> > GloMo (google: "DARPA GloMo") which determined that standard OSPF was unsuitable for operation in dynamic tactical networks.
>
> In still earlier decades, there was the DoD Packet Radio program mentioned by RFC2501 (google: "DoD Packet Radio SRI").
> I went to work for SRI in 1997, and the SRI Packet Radio van was parked outside my office building as a historical artifact. Not too many people remember that one of the first nodes on the Internet (ARPNET at that time) was mobile.
>
> > One of our recent documents is here:
> > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/10758044
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Juliusz Chroboczek <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2025 10:48 AM
> > > To: Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: Donald Eastlake <[email protected]>; manet <[email protected]>; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [manet] Re: MANET WG Charter and MANET Internetworking
> > >
> > > >> and that it cannot renumber at that point?
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > So, MANET-wide renumbering is possible but would be an onerous task
> > >
> > > Ok, that makes sense, thanks.
> > >
> > > > There have been many decades of investigation into MANET use cases
> > > > (disaster relief, manned/unmanned vehicular communications, tactical
> > > > military, many others) and they all have the commonality that a MANET
> > > > can form based on an arbitrary collection of nodes coming together in
> > > > a common operating region to spontaneously form a multi-hop connected
> > > > network even outside of the presence of supporting Internet infrastructure.
> > >
> > > I'd appreciate references, if you have them.
> > >
> > > -- Juliusz
> >
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