[manet] Re: BABEL question
Donald Eastlake <[email protected]> Thu, 24 Jul 2025 18:09:04 -0400
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I believe that, due to the so called "Birthday Paradox", If you select 2**32 (about 4.2 billion) values from a pool of 2**64 values with replacement, the probability of a conflict among the selected values 50%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem The thing is that to determine whether there is a conflict, you need to compare all unordered pairs. With N items, the number of pairs is N*(N-1)/2 so the number of cases of possible conflict goes up with the square. The number of unordered pairs of 2**32 things is ~2**63. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA [email protected] On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 5:51 PM Juliusz Chroboczek <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Imagine a prefix like: "2001:db8:f000::/48" where the lower 16 bits of > > the /64 do not represent a subnet ID but instead identify a host route > > delegation service. > > I most respectfully disagree. > > I have no objection to defining a flat prefix of MANET interface > addresses. However, the prefix must be flat, as anything else is > gratuitious complexity that doesn't bring any practical benefits. > > (Henning is right, by the way, a /64 is good enough. If I recall my > undergrad combinatorics correctly, a /64 gives a vanishingly small > probability of collision when the total number of nodes is less than > 4.2 billion. For a /48, the value is roughly 10¹².) > > -- Juliusz > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] _______________________________________________ manet mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]