[manet] Re: BABEL question

"Templin \(US\), Fred L" <[email protected]> Fri, 25 Jul 2025 21:44:23 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.manet
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Henning, I think you are the one that is not comprehending - please go back and
reread the past couple and ask again more nicely if you are still confused.

Thank you - Fred

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henning Rogge <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 2:14 PM
> To: Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
> Cc: Juliusz Chroboczek <[email protected]>; [email protected] List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [manet] Re: BABEL question
> 
> > OK, if our big-picture world views coincide that is good - we are therefore both
> > considering a population size at least as large as the number of people on the
> > planet. Google "how many cellphones are there in the world" says:
> 
> There is a reason why cellphones are organized in CELLS... each of
> them being tightly organized and aggregated into prefixes by the
> provider.
> 
> > "There are currently more mobile phones than people in the world. While the
> > exact number fluctuates, estimates suggest there are over 12 billion mobile
> > connections worldwide"
> 
> Sorry, this discussion is getting somewhat silly or even insane...
> 
> There is not a single routing protocol in the world that can deal with
> billions of nodes or prefixes...
> There is not a single adhoc routing protocol that can deal with
> hundreds of thousands or nodes in a dynamic environment, even ten
> thousands is beyond challenging.
> 
> (lets ignore the fact that most adhoc capable radio technologies
> provide a serious restriction on the number of devices within a
> collision domain for now)
> 
> > > > So, the population size should be on the order of 10^10 with aspirations
> > > > of becoming larger still.
> 
> Saying you want a prefix for a flat adhoc routing domain with 10^10
> routing entries is ridiculous.
> 
> And you have yet to answer what is wrong about just selecting your /64
> part based on the MAC or EUI-64 part of your radio... no collision and
> more address space than we will EVER need on Earth.
> 
> I think you don't comprehend the scales you are talking about...
> especially the technical issues.
> 
> Henning Rogge
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