[manet] Re: MANET Internetworking: Problem Statement and G ap Analysis

Abdussalam Baryun <[email protected]> Sun, 28 Sep 2025 16:11:16 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.ietf.manet
Message-ID <CADnDZ8-4OG1mRcKjS0ZSR_Oop9xcGST59x0YyqJwsvLWiFgFWw@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Fred,

thanks for your reply,

On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 7:00 PM Templin (US), Fred L <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello AB, and thank you for these comments. Please see below for responses:
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> Regards – Fred Templin
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> *From:* Abdussalam Baryun <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2025 10:13 AM
> *To:* Templin (US), Fred L <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected] List <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] MANET Internetworking: Problem Statement and Gap
> Analysis
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> Hi Fred,
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> I read the draft but still need to see the interest/solution in
> disaster_scenarios, which your assumption was not clear to me, as we using
> 5G network/cells or only MANETs, I think your use case is using the
> internet of wireless_terrestrial_network/5G_network, so I don't think we
> can say MANET of MANETs, because the 5G network already is using its
> management protocols and routing protocols that are different to MANET. Or
> please explain from where some of the cell phones/router are getting the
> internet service? I think the draft needs to identify the terrestrial
> network as use cases, IMHO to make it general will never help.
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> >> Yes, the expectation is that Internet-facing proxies will receive
> Internet access from provider infrastructure
>
> >> through traditional service provider models such as 5G, then provide
> MANET-facing interfaces to support
>
> >> Internet connection-sharing services to MANET nodes that cannot
> directly engage provider infrastructure
>
> >> themselves. So, maybe a more acceptable way to phrase the big-picture
> view of an Internet structured in
>
> >> this way is a “network-of-(Mobile Ad-hoc) networks”?
>
[...]


>  [...]
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> The concern is
> for vast numbers of small to modest-sized MANETs that interconnect
> using the Internet as transit where there are no constraints on the
> nature of MANET-to-MANET interconnection events.
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>
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> I think the draft needs more definitions and clarifying the disaster
> networking.
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> >> Would it help to include a section on use cases? I think others have
> tried to do that in the past
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> >> but did not receive traction. If you think use case text would be
> helpful, I think it should be a
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> >> couple of paragraphs at most and not multiple pages otherwise the draft
> could become
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> >> marginalized.
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>
Yes I agree, or  the problem statement section, in the begining could
include the scenarios or use cases of such disaster solution/network, and
may include other use_cases or network services that are similar to our
purpose/interest.

best regards
AB

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